On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Jakob <jakob.v...@s1999.tu-chemnitz.de>wrote:

> Jodi Schneider wrote:
>
> > Interesting. I'd really like ID's to be not only comprehensible but
> > also to have a fair chance of being directly inputtable by humans.
>
> Usual bibliographic catalogs do not provide a mnemonic key as soon as
> their size is more then a few hundred entries. There are various IDs
> like ISBN and OCLC number but there is no large-scale system that has
> simple identifiers. Why do you want to type in the ID by hand anyway?
> What is the use-case?
>
> > For instance, on Wikipedia, if I know that I am looking for the
> > article on "citation signals" I can type the URL directly, without
> > searching.
> >
> > In my ideal citation-wiki-in-the-sky, you could get to the citation
> > directly in this way -- and sensible disambiguation pages would be
> > automatically generated.
>
> Why do you want to directly work with fragile identifiers? Every
> modern web application provides auto-suggest: you type in a keyword,
> title, author, anything and get a list of publications and a link to
> create a new one. Then you select a publication from the list and its
> ID gets copied into your editor (an ideal editor would also send a
> pingback to the citation database to know where a publication
> identifier is used). Done.
>
> I also like mnemonic identifiers, they are useful if you have to read,
> memorize and type in them. But if your workflow is truly digital then
> their limitation is just a burden. I would value uniqueness and
> stability much more then readability - and you cannot get both!
>
> Cheers
> Jakob
>
>
>
You continue to rest the basis of your argument on a small number of outlier
cases, vis-a-vis stability.

Brian
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