Ha! Good luck trying to get Wikipedians to hold hands...distance is
definitely a problem

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Getting serious again, perhaps something that could be discussed as a part
> of the community health initiative is how to help people to argue
> constructively and civilly. I'm reminded a bit of a story I heard about a
> married couple who had an agreement that they would argue only when holding
> hands. Apparently they worked out situations between them better that way.
> Are there ways that we could encourage better methods of handling disputes
> on wiki that we have yet to try, or that we are trying but could scale up?
>
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think we should have arguments about whether we are allowed to have
>> arguments. ;)
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Gerard Meijssen <
>> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hoi,
>>> Such approaches ass-ume that we know best and promptly forget that the
>>> world changes and that this attitude prevents "us" from arguing, poking at
>>> the holy cows.
>>>
>>> What if BIG contributors and Jane or me tell you that you are wrong?
>>> Would you listen do you listen?? Yes we have our arguments ready!
>>> Thanks,
>>>        GerardM
>>>
>>> On 19 October 2015 at 07:13, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Most interesting slide from that deck is this one:
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:WikiConference_USA_-_Community_Health.pdf&page=20
>>>>
>>>> I would say as a Wikipedian, I am firmly a member of the top bar there:
>>>> COI (love to edit Haarlem articles b/c I live there), Disruptive editing
>>>> (accused of this b/c I love other projects that most Wikipedians don't
>>>> edit, like Commons and Wikidata), Gaming the system (I love games, such as
>>>> publicizing things on Wikipedia to see if it makes a difference, and over
>>>> time it generally does), Difficult users (I think all Wikipedians are
>>>> entrepreneurs in the sense that they work alone and don't take no for an
>>>> answer, like me)
>>>>
>>>> If you want to work on removing Wikipedians in that bar, please be
>>>> aware you're talking about me. And if you send a coach to fix me, then I
>>>> will soon be moving into the orange and red zones!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:52 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Forwarding this interesting presentation's slide deck from Haitham.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WikiConference_USA_-_Community_Health.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> Pine
>>>>>
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