Hello, indeed a very interesting topic, and one should really treat small and big Wikipedias as very different kinds of websites. Just alone that on big Wikipedias, you have and use a watchlist, while on a small Wikipedia, you basically use the Recent changes. A systematic comparison would be great. My paper ten years ago was more a survey on the topic by itself: Ziko van Dijk: Wikipedia and lesser-resourced languages. In: *Language Problems and Language Planning* 33 (2009, Nr. 3, Herbst), S. 234-255. Actually in the book I am working on right now, such a systematic comparison would be a very useful example for how to apply my wiki model... :-) Kind regards Ziko
Am Do., 3. Okt. 2019 um 21:13 Uhr schrieb Lucie Kaffee < lucie.kaf...@gmail.com>: > Just adding a small point I saw while interviewing editors of different > language Wikipedias: I believe (and haven't further investigated, so take > this with a grain of salt) that there is also a general difference in the > behavior of "small" and "large" communities, e.g., in trust between the > editors and how they work together. This seemed to be independent of other > cultural context, but this is rather anecdotal and would be interesting to > see further investigated. > I find it generally a very interesting topic and look forward to what > results from the discussion here, so far I see research only applying their > methods across Wikipedias rather than drawing conclusion from one language > version to another. > Thanks Isaac also for the collection of reading material :) > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019, 16:23 Amir E. Aharoni <amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> > wrote: > > > Thanks a lot for bringing this up. > > > > Sorry for not offering a solution, but I do want to mention a > > frequently-missed aspect of the problem: Wikis in different languages > have > > some differences that are understandable because they reflect some > > objective cultural characteristics of the people who speak it. But some > > differences are artificial and exit because in the early days of > Wikimedia > > (mid-2000s) there were no convenient ways for wikis to communicate and > > share info. There were no global accounts and no convenient translation > > tools. > > > > Templates are still not global, even though there is huge demand for > it,[1] > > and a lot of community process are implemented using templates: requests > > for deletion, requests for unblocking, article sorting for WikiProjects, > > stub sorting. Many of these things could be unified, at least partially, > by > > making templates global, and among many benefits, it would make research > > easier, too. > > > > [1] It came at #3 in the Community Wishlist vote in 2015, and at #1 in > > 2016. Despite this demand, it was not implemented :( > > > > -- > > Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי > > http://aharoni.wordpress.com > > “We're living in pieces, > > I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore > > > > > > בתאריך יום ד׳, 2 באוק׳ 2019 ב-14:37 מאת Jan Dittrich < > > jan.dittr...@wikimedia.de>: > > > > > Hello researchers, > > > > > > A lot of research on Wikipedia is published in English and also uses > the > > > English Wikipedia as source of data or researchers get their > participants > > > via English Wikipedia [0]. > > > > > > A frequent criticism I meet when discussing such research with > non-en.wp > > > community members is that their Wikipedia is different and the results > of > > > en.wp base research are problematic/incomparable/totally useless. > > > > > > So I want to ask: > > > - Do you know of research comparing different Wikis, preferably across > > > language versions? [1] > > > - How would you deal with such criticism, particularly of the "if it is > > not > > > about 'my' wp it is useless"-kind [2]? > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > Jan > > > > > > ____ > > > [0] Plausible due to academi fields, particularly Computer Science, > > > publishing mainly in english, size and WMF as actor being US-based. > > > [1] I know of »revisiting "The Rise and Decline" in a Population of > Peer > > > Production Projects« (https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=3173929), > > > comparing different Wikia-Wikis; Research like "limits of > > > self-organization" (https://firstmonday.org/article/view/1405/1323) > that > > > refer to general principles of peer production. Comparisons of > Wikipedias > > > across languages and the impact of their different contexts, languages > > and > > > regulations would be very interesting to me. > > > [2] I'm aware that making heterogeneous things comparable is seen as a > > core > > > academic/scientific activity in STS research (Law, SL Star, Turnbull…) > > so I > > > do not want to say, transfer to a different setting is not a problem – > > but > > > it is certainly not "totally useless" either. > > > > > > -- > > > Jan Dittrich > > > UX Design/ Research > > > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin > > > Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 > > > https://wikimedia.de > > > > > > Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der > > Menschheit > > > teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei! > > > https://spenden.wikimedia.de > > > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland — Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. 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