Warmly seconded ! On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 11:29 AM Aaron Halfaker <[email protected]> wrote:
> Cheers! Thanks Leila for pushing on this. I think we have a far better > landing page now. > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 7:50 PM Leila Zia <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > Thanks for the words of encouragement on and off-list. Aaron (cc-ed) > > and I did another pass over the text itself as well as the > > look-and-feel of it and pushed a new version that you can now read at > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l . > > > > The most important items you should be aware of: > > > > * We dropped the [wmf] tag because my specific purpose for introducing > > that tag, we think, can be handled by me posting emails with a > > specific subject format. > > > > * We dropped the "Moderation" section as we thought it's redundant for > > the most part. Many know that lists are moderated. (We did discuss > > whether it is important to keep some version of the text for a more > > inclusive culture but decided to not go with it at the end.) > > > > Thanks, > > Leila > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 9:54 PM Heather Ford <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Looks great, Leila :) > > > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > > Dr Heather Ford > > > Associate Professor and Head of Discipline (Digital and Social Media > > > < > > > https://www.uts.edu.au/future-students/communication/digital-and-social-media > > > > > > ) > > > School of Communication > > > < > > > https://www.uts.edu.au/future-students/communication/about-communication/welcome-school-communication > > >, > > > University of Technology, Sydney <https://www.uts.edu.au/> (UTS) > > > > > > w: hblog.org / t: @hfordsa <http://www.twitter.com/hfordsa> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 12:40, Leila Zia <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > Summary: I have made changes to the introduction description of this > > > > mailing list. This includes changes to what this mailing list is used > > > > for (reflecting more closely the reality of how it's been used for > the > > > > past couple of years), more expanded information about other lists > > > > that you may want to be aware of, the mailing list norms, and the > > > > introduction of topics and tags. You can review the updated > > > > description at > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > . As a participant of this mailing list, you are responsible to know > > > > the description of the mailing list and I kindly ask you to review > it. > > > > Thanks! :) > > > > > > > > Long version: > > > > > > > > ==Who am I?== > > > > I'm one of the admins of this list (and head of Research at Wikimedia > > > > Foundation). > > > > > > > > ==Why the change?== > > > > On a personal level: I want to be able to communicate with the > > > > research community around Wikimedia projects more often, I don't want > > > > to create a new list for my communications, and I saw the note about > > > > the limits on the frequency of posts in the old description of this > > > > list as something that "kept me out". Inspired by this need, I had a > > > > more comprehensive look at the full description. > > > > > > > > The previous version of the description [1] had a few areas to > improve > > > > based on the current needs and realities of this list. I name a > couple > > > > of them below: > > > > > > > > * We had a note about the frequency of emails to this list to be kept > > > > low. With the stack of technologies available to us today, we can > > > > relax this condition and ask for people to use tags/topics in the > > > > subject of their emails to allow for more emails to come to the list. > > > > > > > > * The note on who can post to this list could be improved. It read > > > > "only people who are actively involved in research on Wikimedia > > > > projects should post to this list" while my understanding is that on > > > > this list we want to welcome research related questions from those > who > > > > are not actively involved in research, too. For example, community > > > > organizers should feel welcome to ask research-related questions on > > > > this list. > > > > > > > > ==What process did I follow for this change?== > > > > I wrote my proposed changes in an etherpad and sent it to 10 people. > > > > These folks include the two other admins of this list, a couple of > > > > other Research folks from WMF, a few folks from the Wikimedia > Research > > > > community, and two editors from the community who are active in the > > > > research space. I heard back from 3 of these folks with thumbs up and > > > > areas for improvement. I incorporated all the suggestions I received. > > > > > > > > ==What if you have suggestions for improvements?== > > > > Sure. Bring them up on this thread or privately. Please note that I > > > > will be in Wikidata Conference [2] and after that in our annual > > > > Research Offsite and may not be able to respond to you until > > > > 2019-11-01. > > > > > > > > ==Where can I see the updated description?== > > > > Please go to > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > to review it. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Leila > > > > > > > > [1] Read the previous version of the description below: > > > > > > > > The purpose of this mailing list is to discuss scientific research > > > > into the content and the communities of the Wikimedia projects: > > > > Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikibooks, Wikisource, Wikiquote, Wikinews, > > > > Wikispecies, and Wikimedia Commons, Meta-Wiki. > > > > > > > > Research into the technology of Wikimedia, MediaWiki, should > primarily > > > > be discussed on <a > > > > href="http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > ">wikitech-l</A> > > > > instead. For content or community research projects with a strong > > > > technological component, cross-posting to both lists may be > advisable. > > > > > > > > Please note that only people who are actively involved in research on > > > > Wikimedia projects should post to this list. Typical on-topic posts > > > > include: > > > > > > > > <UL><LI>announcement of a new research project > > > > <LI>discussions of methodology > > > > <LI>questions and answers about related projects > > > > </UL> > > > > > > > > Mailing list traffic should be kept at a reasonably low level. The > > > > list is softly moderated, and individuals posting off-topic material > > > > repeatedly may be removed. > > > > > > > > This list is not directly associated with the <a > > > > href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research_Network > > ">Wikimedia > > > > Research Network</A>, though members of the Network are welcome to > > > > post here if they are involved in research projects relating to > > > > content or community. Internal Wikimedia matters, discussions of new > > > > projects and similar threads should be kept off the list. > > > > > > > > [2] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikidataCon_2019 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Leila Zia > > > > Principal Research Scientist, Head of Research > > > > Wikimedia Foundation > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki-research-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > -- Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l
