Thank you everyone for your comments and suggestions on the topic of gaining access to deleted articles! I will reach out to le...@wikimedia.org to inquire about researcher status.
I have one more question, do any of you know if there is a way to look at the entire history of this page? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Academics_and_educators If I am unable to gain access to deleted articles, I figured I could try to parse this page for data on factors leading to article flagging for deletion, but I would need to go back in time longer than one month as the page currently only goes back to June 18th. let me know! Warmly, Mackenzie Lemieux On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 5:00 AM <wiki-research-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Send Wiki-research-l mailing list submissions to > wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wiki-research-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wiki-research-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wiki-research-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Requesting access to deleted pages for research purposes > (WereSpielChequers) > 2. CICM 2020, July 26-31: Call for Online Participation > (Serge Autexier) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 16:05:07 +0100 > From: WereSpielChequers <werespielchequ...@gmail.com> > To: Research into Wikimedia content and communities > <wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Requesting access to deleted pages for > research purposes > Message-ID: > < > caaanwp26z5c_yjsragonnd9ylh+l+ewyicfyuin-dd2_t37...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Mackenie, > > You may be correct in either or both of your hypotheses, but you might also > want to check out two other related ones. > > 1 Some academic institutions may have an element of misogyny in their HR > policies, leading to such situations as an academic becoming notable for > their work to the point where they merit a Wikipedia article, before they > become a full professor. > > 2 In Wikipedia's drive to address the gender skew in our content, we may > have some editors creating articles on women who don't yet meet our > notability criteria. Such articles are of course highly likely to be > deleted. > > There is another way to approach this, check primary and secondary sources > to see how Wikipedia compares against them. For example, we have articles > on every female Fellow of the Royal Society, and we achieved that almost a > decade ago. I don't know if we yet have articles on all the blokes.. I > expect we have articles on every Nobel Prize Winner by now, but there will > be less well known awards and lists of people in STEM. > > One problem in looking at deletion discussions is that they don't always > say what the person is known for, and so you can have confusion between > multiple people of the same name. I was once asked to restore a deleted > article so that someone could look at what was there and see if they could > make a clearer case re the notability of that eminent diplomat. After > looking at the deleted article, I told them not to start from the deleted > bit, and if it was the same person, to emphasise their subsequent career as > a diplomat, rather than their adolescent career as a "pro skateboarder". > So in order to find the articles on deleted female scientists, you either > need a list of deleted female scientists, or to check a lot of other > articles to find which are scientists. > > Hope that's useful > > WSC > > On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 at 00:17, Stuart A. Yeates <syea...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I recently completed a project writing en.wiki articles for all female > > and indigenous professors in my country, .nz. > > > > I now write pronounless biographies, because there were a significant > > number whose gender wasn't apparent from their public persona. My > > guess is that women and LGBTIA+ minorities are incentivised to remove > > markers of their gender from their online presence to keep a lower > > profile to avoid the trolls and bigots. > > > > There were also a number who clearly appeared to be a certain > > ethnicity based on their staff photo, but where there were no reliable > > sources as to that ethnicity. > > > > I also had a one person ask for their article to be deleted. [If this > > is of interest I can send details to you directly, but I will not post > > their details to a public forum and ask you refrain from this also.] > > > > I look forward to reading your experimental design taking these > > factors into account. > > > > cheers > > stuart > > -- > > ...let us be heard from red core to black sky > > > > On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 at 06:43, Mackenzie Lemieux > > <mackenzie.lemi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Wiki Community, > > > > > > My name is Mackenzie Lemieux and I am a neuroscience researcher at the > > Salk > > > Institute for Biological Studies and I am interested in exploring > biases > > on > > > Wikipedia. > > > > > > My research hypothesis is that gender or ethnicity mediate the rate of > > > flagging and deletion of pages for women in STEM. I hope to > > > retrospectively analyze Wikipedia's deletion history, harvest the > > > biographical articles about scientists that have been created over the > > past > > > n years and then confirm the gender and ethnicity of a large sample. > > > > > > It appears that we can identify deleted pages with Wikipedia's deletion > > log > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_log>, but to > actually > > see > > > the page that was deleted we need to be members of one of these > Wikipedia > > > user groups: Administrators > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators>, Oversighters > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Oversight>, Researchers > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Researchers>, Checkusers > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CheckUser>. > > > > > > Does anyone have advice on how to obtain researcher status or is there > > > anyone willing to collaborate who has access to the data we need? > > > > > > Warmly, > > > Mackenzie Lemieux > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Mackenzie Lemieux > > > mackenzie.lemi...@gmail.com > > > cell: 416-806-0041 > > > 220 Gilmour Avenue > > > Toronto, Ontario > > > M6P 3B4 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wiki-research-l mailing list > > Wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 17:25:34 +0200 (CEST) > From: serge.autex...@dfki.de (Serge Autexier) > To: wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: [Wiki-research-l] CICM 2020, July 26-31: Call for Online > Participation > Message-ID: <20200710152534.D461C335C8F5@gigondas.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > ===================================================================== > > CALL FOR PARTICIPATION > > CICM 2020 -- Conference on Intelligent Computer Mathematics > > https://cicm-conference.org/2020/ > > Due to the Covid-19 outbreak, CICM 2020 is held as an online conference > > ====================================================================== > > GENERAL INFORMATION > ------------------- > > Digital and computational solutions are becoming the prevalent means > for the generation, communication, processing, storage and curation of > mathematical information. 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