Hi Galder, Please see below.
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 12:26 PM Galder Gonzalez LarraƱaga <galder...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks, Leila, for answering the question raised. Anytime. > I'm a bit confused with this, I supposed that the Wikimedia Foundation > Research Award was an initiative from the Research team of the WMF > (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research), but I read in your > answer that "WikiResearch is primarily in English and about research > published in English". I understand that the main working language of the WMF > is English, as this mailing list is, but I would assume that an Award > promoted by the WMF should be multilingual. Sorry. Let me clarify. What I was referring to when I used WikiResearch in my email was the WikiResearch twitter account: https://twitter.com/WikiResearch . I did not intend to refer to the WMF Research team or Wikimedia Research community. And to repeat: this is one source we use to find research done on the Wikimedia projects. There are other sources as I mentioned in my response. > Me, as a Basque Wikimedians User Group member, I promote Wikimedia activities > in Basque language, because that is our goal. But the WMF is not the English > Wikimedians User Group, as far as I understand. Our designated lingua franca > may be English, but the WMF can't exclude research that is not made in this > language from an Award. I would understand if the (non-existing) English > Wikimedians User Group created the "EWUG Research in English Award of the > Year", but is not the case. I understand and acknowledge your point about inclusion. I hope some of the points I shared about our existing process in my other email can help you find possible solutions we can consider doing. :) On my end: I have a todo to come back to you all. Best, Leila > Cheers, > > Galder > > ________________________________ > From: Leila Zia <l...@wikimedia.org> > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2022 8:04 PM > To: wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org <wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Cc: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org>; Discussion list > for the Wikidata project. <wikid...@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wiki-research-l] Re: The Wikimedia Foundation > Research Award of the Year - Call for Nominations > > Hi all, Thank you for your feedback. I take your comments as a sign of > genuine care and I'm happy to engage and learn with you how we can do > better. (Note: I'm responding to all lists, though some of the > feedback has been sent only to wikimedia-l.) > > * Galder, Gereon, Xavier, Gnangarra, and Andy: thank you for your feedback. > > * Andy, I'll respond to your comment first. We do not require the work > to be published under a free license for us to consider it for the > award. However, if the work is shortlisted, we reach out to the > authors, tell them that it's shortlisted, and it can be considered for > the award if the work is at least made publicly available. At that > point, we also encourage the authors to publish under a free license > and share with them a few ways they may be able to (even if the work > is published somewhere already with restrictions). The issue of > licenses is on top of our mind and we actively look for ways to push > for more Wikimedia research work to be published under free licenses. > > * I am going to share with you some of my thoughts, and a possible > improvement we can make in the process. > > ** Let's try to keep things simple to be able to improve things > together. This is not a case of "WMF did x". The idea of the award was > created in the Research team, and both last year and this year, we've > been grateful to have the support of researchers outside of WMF for > it. (Aaron Shaw (Northwestern University), and Benjamin Mako Hill (U. > of Washington)). I take full responsibility for the execution of the > award and I can take your feedback and see where we can improve the > process. :) > > ** In order to be able to improve the process, I should share more > details about how we do the search for the publications first. We have > multiple sources for searching for research published in a given year: > 1. The nomination process we shared on this thread. > 2. Research publications shared in WikiResearch twitter account. > 3. External research search engines and repositories for different > fields: we use scholar.google.com, dblp.org and more. > > To give you a sense of the distribution of scholarly publications we > identified last year from each of the above sources: 11 nominations > and 170+ research publications through the twitter account and > external searches. The award chairs (2 people; this year it is going > to be Mako and I) reviewed all identified publications. We discussed > every publication at varying depth depending on the result of our > initial reviews. > > ** Knowing the process, there are at least a few ways I think the > process must be improved. I'm sure now that you see more you can > critique even more. :) I proactively share with you some of them here: > ::* I need to have an easychair account to nominate. That can/must > change (but to what? we want these nominations to be private, and we > need a way to be able to process them efficiently because we're only 2 > people. We are considering openreview.net for the future years because > they're open source; but they still have other limitations. For this > year, easychair it is.). > ::* We need more people on the committee: both for workload sharing, > and also including more perspectives. (This is /a lot/ to ask of > researchers. I'm grateful that Mako and Aaron have supported us in the > past.) > ::* We need other non-English sources to source community research. > (WikiResearch is primarily in English and about research published in > English.) > ::* The shared language of reviewers is assumed to be English. If we > are going to at scale consider other languages, then we need a way > that this group of people can converse on academic topics with one > another without having to share a language. > > ** I also understand the reality of the resources available to me and > our team. I understand the importance of working on multiple fronts > with regards to the research community (Wikimedia Research Funds, Wiki > Workshop, global research competitions, research showcases, monthly > office hours, talks and presentations, formal collaborations, and > more). I believe in the importance of motivation (and we have seen a > very good momentum around the award idea from last year's run). We > need to do many things, with very limited resources; Our values and > ideals are important and we have to attempt to hold them all as we > make decisions. In practice, sometimes we can't meet all the ambitions > we have. We need to make trade-offs. What is important is to be aware, > to listen, to try to improve, and to be honest. > > I will leave you with the above and I commit to talk with Mako to > consider ways to open up the process for more languages to be included > (in 2021 or in 2022+; I can't promise changes for the 2021 process.). > One of us will write back here with what we decide to do. > > Thanks, > Leila > > On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 5:42 AM Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 7 Jan 2022 at 19:48, Leila Zia <l...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > > > =Eligibility criteria= > > > > > * The publication must be available in English. > > > > I echo others' concerns about this. > > > > I'm equally concerned that, while WMF regard being in English as > > essential for one of their awards, they do not regard the use of an > > open licence as a requirement. > > > > -- > > Andy Mabbett > > @pigsonthewing > > https://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > _______________________________________________ > > Wiki-research-l mailing list -- wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wiki-research-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org/message/OOQOYTEXTIUEFZNU636I3UMQLFBK7A7H/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org/message/TZLPDY4SJW3LRT5OFR6ORXS5ZFMSV6XM/ > To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Wiki-research-l mailing list -- wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wiki-research-l-le...@lists.wikimedia.org