https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15491
--- Comment #1 from S. McCandlish <smccandl...@gmail.com> 2009-01-13 08:20:04 UTC --- Self-correction! I meant to say: 'Failure to fix this means disuse of semantic markup tags in favor of ones with no semantic meaning at all (u and s), which are ignored by screen readers, thus making this an accessibility issue: "Foo <s>bar</s> <u>baz</u> quux" will be read by screen reader software in most cases as "foo bar baz quux", which is obviously wrong in almost all cases in Wikipedia, where something more like "Foo <del>bar</del> <ins>baz</ins> quux" was intended, and will be rendered properly.' To continue in more detail: Depending upon the screen reader, the aural rendering will be something something like "[normal tone] Foo [tone change] deleted-text bar [different tone change] inserted-text baz [return to normal tone] quux" - but people won't use actually do this properly because of the bug reported here. With the u/s rendering it will simply be "[normal tone] foo bar baz quux", with all the non-semantic u/s markup ignored. No one's going to do it properly until this bug is fixed, yet by a HUGE margin, the WP usage of u/s is in talkspace (and occasionally quotations of manuscript materials) as stand-ins for ins/del, respectively. There are almost zero legit uses of u and s outside of the insertion and deletion contexts. U has been abandoned almost Web-wide, and s even off of Wikipedia is hardly ever used to indicate anything other than deleted/redacted material (i.e., what del is for). As non-semantic markup elements, u and s serve no purpose other than decoration, and should be abandoned on WP just as they are being deprecated in the specs in favor of CSS. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l