https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17963





--- Comment #4 from jida...@jidanni.org  2009-03-17 20:31:50 UTC ---
> It does deal with them by showing "view source" tabs instead of edit tabs 
> above
> a protected page,

Let's talk about when the talk page doesn't exist.
You give them a red link inviting them to go edit a talk page that
doesn't exist and they have no permission to edit.

> So? This happens for redlinks inside articles too.

That can be blamed on authors. But we're talking about
the MediaWiki provided links at the tops of pages here.

You don't give them a link to delete a page that they don't have any
permission to delete, so why then give them a talk link that they will
totally regret clicking?

> That means not showing the tabs at all (a suggestion you repeat below), which
> is pretty confusing, especially for the article/talk tab.

At least don't give them a "bait and switch" talk tab.

It is rare that a talk page would exist, but not its article. So it is
safe to check if "talk page exists or we have permission to create it"
before making a talk link, (red or blue,) ... please.


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