https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43915
--- Comment #7 from Krinkle <krinklem...@gmail.com> --- (In reply to comment #6) > Thank you for explaining why the other script has not been run and the > different role of this other script; I'd appreciate if you could provide me > some links that I could use as a reference for adding this information on > wiki. > Example link: https://li.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciaal:Alle_berichte&prefix=&filter=modified Dozens of messages there are still overridden locally eventhough it isn't really overriding it as the translation in translatewiki is the same as the local one. This message https://li.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Allmessages&action=history ... was last modified by a wiki user (it wasn't imported from the system, it was manually translated locally). Then some time later (possibly by the same wiki user) the same translation was provided to translatewiki and they accepted it and now all wikis have this version of the message. This is a success story! > I think your summary is a bit idealistic ("MediaWiki default" is still > blocked on one wiki), but I agree that this is considered standard cleanup > on most wikis, that what you propose makes total sense and is very needed, > and also that there shouldn't be big opposition. That block is useless and could be (I don't know for sure) a good example of the part of the community that is being anti-foundation without knowing what they're doing. That system hasn't existed for almost 5 years. So you can block all you want but that user, that system is dead and the block is completely pointless. Also, that block and the opposition to it are no longer relevant. This bug is about a different measure and for different reasons. The old system stored messages in the MediaWiki namespace exclusivel. The old system made localisation updates by editing those pages, we haven't done that for many years. People blocked the system on some wikis to avoid losing their local overrides (as the system would edit the pages and replace the messages with the latest versions from translatewiki). Opposition to that is understandable if they prefer their own versions. And that's okay. The system we have today, the system we've had for many years now doesn't do that anymore. We now store them on the server in i18n.php files and always consider the local MediaWiki namespace to be of priority. So when we update the software, we change them on the server. And the MediaWiki namespace will be a layer we no longer touch and remains on top. The clean up script this bug is about does *NOT* replace local contributions and does *NOT* result in a visible change of messages. It merely removes redundant pages leaving only the overrides. So wikis that override a message (for example on nl.wikipedia.org they override messages referring to admins and call them Moderators instead) will not be affected, the overrides will continue to exist. But if a message is changed locally (e.g. a better translation) and that better version is then submitted to translatewiki. Once it is accepted and deployed, we'll merge the central version and the local version so that future updates are visible (e.g. an even better version provided by the community). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
