https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46322

--- Comment #4 from MZMcBride <b...@mzmcbride.com> ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> #wikimedia-dev is not Wikimedia deployment specific development. It is
> development of software used by Wikimedia, which all of MediaWiki is
> obviously part of at least as long as either MediaWiki is a Wikimedia
> Foundation project and Wikipedia.org runs on MediaWiki. Regardless of
> whether our staff maintains it or not.

This is insane. Are you hearing yourself?

>> I'd much prefer #mediawiki-feeds.
> 
> For what reason? Because you don't want to see it in channels that you're in?

Because it's the least bad option (other than keeping the bots in #mediawiki).

> In that case we move it out of channels not meant for developers only
> (#mediawiki) and into #wikimedia-dev where it is reasonable to ask you to use
> /ignore if you don't like it.

This doesn't make any sense. What's accomplished here?

> If you do find them useful, then how are they useful in a separate channel?
> You'd have to manually check up there to see for anything. I don't think that
> works well in practice. The whole idea of being exposed to other people's
> activities casually (without actively looking for it) wouldn't exist anymore
> then I believe.

That's a reason to either keep the bots in #mediawiki or not. Moving them to a
separate discussion channel solves nothing.

> Besides, what about the channels for operations, visualeditor, parsoid,
> mobile.
> They all have bots related to their activities, because it makes sense to
> have it in the same channel so you're exposed to each others activities and
> can jump into things when they come by. Separating it out is
> counter-intuitive.

What about them? You're the one conflating gerrit-wm and wikibugs and then
complaining about the two being conflated. wikibugs is only in #mediawiki and
was the subject of its own discussion before you created this bug. gerrit-wm is
in multiple channels already and serves a different purpose from wikibugs.

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