https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20644

Siebrand <s.mazel...@xs4all.nl> changed:

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--- Comment #12 from Siebrand <s.mazel...@xs4all.nl> ---
It surprises me that it escapes at least two people commenting in this issue
that there is something severely wrong with the usability of
Special:NewMessages of the extension LiquidThreads. It's one of the most
important pages of the extension, too, i.e. the page where someone goes to read
up on active talk threads.

I'm not a designer, not an interaction expert, so apologies if I lack the
vocabulary to eloquently dissect what is wrong exactly. As a participant in
discussions using LiquidThreads, I saw a sub-optimally designed workflow years
ago when I reported this issue, and still see it to this day, and actually
today.

This issue isn't solved by applying patches, figuratively speaking, to the
current special page, as is suggested by way of "mak[ing] new bugs for
individual problems that you see". It is solved by properly redesigning the
workflow of digesting active LiquidThreads discussion, as is suggested in
comment 6. Work on this was actually started, but never communicated widely (a
presentation by at Wikimania 2010 -
http://www.slideshare.net/werdnum/liquid-threads-wikimania-2010), but never
completed in detail. Some work may have been done as part of "LiquidThreads
3.0", but it's unlikely that will ever see completion
(http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/LiquidThreads_3.0 ) as Wikimedia Foundation
cancelled it mid 2012.

Anyway, let's just close the bigger issues as invalid, especially if the wrong
words are used[1]. That leaves us with work items that's much easier to
understand.

[1] http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/messy

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