https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28385

--- Comment #16 from Happy-melon <happy.melon.w...@gmail.com> 2011-04-02 
19:26:30 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #15)
> (In reply to comment #5)
> FYI I am GMT +1. We finally are about to discuss bug
> assessment/evaluation/rating, which will hopefully give this site a meaning. A
> sophisticated modern place where development discussion boils down in an
> organized manner and decisions on the future are made is simply non-existing 
> in
> whole Wikimedia and bug voting was the closest to this. 

If you think that voting on bugs was the apotheosis of developer
decision-making on Wikimedia, you are simply not inhabiting the same reality as
the developers who actually do the coding round here.  The developers have two
IRC channels, four mailing lists, a bug tracker, a code review queue, a
scratchpad and an entire wiki in their toolkit for hosting development
discussions.  They work perfectly adequately to allow such discussions to "boil
down in an organised manner".  If you think that such fora don't exist, you're
just looking in the wrong place.  

> Of course, this site should expand significantly to be able to host 
> such a process or much better a specialized site should be launched in 
> the look of some ideas bank (Dells ideastorm etc.). The general public 
> should be able to supply priorities weighting at leaset 50% of the 
> development made, the other 50% may be supplied
> by developer community as software performance is an important issue 
> too of course.

You're making the mistaken assumption that the MediaWiki developers are in some
way subservient to the whims of the members of whichever wiki you come from. 
The MediaWiki software is its own project with its own community, which
produces a product that you happen to use and suggest improvements to.  We are
fortunate to have amongst that community a number of developers who are paid by
the WMF to develop parts of that software for the specific benefit of the
Wikimedia projects; but 80% of the MW developers are volunteers, and 95% of
instances of MediaWiki wikis are not Wikimedia projects.

Make no mistake, the MW developers are very interested in the bug reports and
feature requests of MW users, and it's natural that Wikimedia projects are the
source of the majority of those comments.  Collecting and ordering those
suggestions is the purpose of bugzilla.wikimedia.org.  But treat the
developers' sites as you would treat another Wikimedia project; the
relationship between a wikipedia and Commons is an excellent example.  You do
not order Commons admins around, and you do not attempt to dictate the workflow
and priorities of the Commons community.  If you observe a problem, you point
it out and engage in discussion where necessary.  And everyone tries to work
together to build a better future, because they're Nice People, not because
someone is dictating to the other.

-- 
Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
------- You are receiving this mail because: -------
You are watching all bug changes.

_______________________________________________
Wikibugs-l mailing list
Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l

Reply via email to