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In T195178#7123731 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195178#7123731>, @Multichill wrote: > Not sure about what your intentions are with these questions. I'll just assume good faith Hey. Of course there's no bad intention; I don't know why I should have bad intentions towards you, you've never harmed me or my family (because you haven't... have you? 😅). In T195178#7122976 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195178#7122976>, @abian wrote: > My devil's advocate questions: > > - I assume that the main purpose of all constraint types is to inform editors of mistakes or suggestions that would otherwise not be obvious. I also assume that all Items should have both labels and descriptions in virtually all supported languages. Why should users be told that the lack of a label in one language is a mistake and shouldn't be told the same about a label in another language that is more relevant (e.g. more demanded by Wikipedia) or more familiar to the user? > - Would it be expected that users who didn't previously fill in labels would switch to filling them in as a result of these violations? Or would these violations be ignored and contribute to all constraint types being ignored more? > - Might labels that were not suggested by these constraints be more neglected? I usually leave these kinds of questions on Phabricator to try to assess in advance possible problems I can think of that might (or might not) arise after the possible implementation. The questions aren't ironic, I really don't know the answers but I do think they're relevant. There are a couple of dozen constraint types considered or proposed for implementation, so the first question would serve to justify why this constraint type would be particularly helpful; the second question is related to the problem of habituation to warnings <https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3025453.3025896>, which is already occurring on Wikidata and we know both indirect figures <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:2020_report_on_Property_constraints#Knowledge,_perception_and_ease_of_use> and individual users who routinely ignore these warnings, but this problem will evolve and new warnings could make it worse or better; and the third would be another question to think about whether the overall balance of obeying the warnings would be positive for Wikidata (re)users or not. Of course I don't have these answers nor a special interest that this constraint type isn't implemented... until you harm me or my family, in which case I won't hesitate to add a dislike token to this very task. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195178 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: abian Cc: Esc3300, abian, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Multichill, Invadibot, maantietaja, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, merbst, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Agabi10, Scott_WUaS, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331
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