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Changes for task description are:
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| After my edit (later deleted without an explanation or
justification
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| editors having to create and maintain redundant content (copying the same
thing to most/all languages creates massive amounts of edits and is a huge
waste of resources)
| editors having to create and maintain redundant
content (copying the same thing to most/all languages could create massive
amounts of edits and is a huge waste of resources)
| all descriptions and labels
can be added in a single edit
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| Problem
| Problem
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| user tend to fill in empty label fields, especially when a
description in the language is present
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| empty label fields may result in suboptimal string
additions
| It should be easy to find diffs for
such edits on name items.
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| fall-back is generally ill understood
| people wouldn't fill in labels if the
fallback was understood
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| Example
| Example
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| persons
(https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Search/haswbstatement:P31=Q5, as of now
9.2M) have in most cases the same label and the same aliases repeated in
different languages, e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42
| persons
(https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Search/haswbstatement:P31=Q5, as of now
9.2M) have in most cases the same label and the same aliases repeated in
different languages, e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42 Labels generally
differ by script (Latin script and all others)
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| given names and family names (https://w.wiki/3zWT, which counts Q202444 and
Q101352 including subclasses, as of now 590k): in all cases the same label are
repeated in different same-script languages, e.g.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21448867.
| given names and
family names (https://w.wiki/3zWT, which counts Q202444 and Q101352 including
subclasses, as of now 590k): in all cases the same label are repeated in
different same-script languages, e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21448867 .
This to avoid that translations are added (e.g. "John"@en and "Giovanni"@it
shouldn't be on the same item).
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| taxa
(https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Search/haswbstatement:P31=Q16521, as of
now 3.1M) the species "Neotrogla curvata"
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q39898268> - has "Neotrogla curvata" as the
label 411 times.
| taxa
(https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Search/haswbstatement:P31=Q16521, as of
now 3.1M) the species "Neotrogla curvata"
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q39898268> - has "Neotrogla curvata" as the
label 411 times. Latinized names should be generally available as fallback.
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| Codes
| Codes and abbreviations
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| metric ton <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q191118> - should
have "t" as alias in Latin script languages, "т" as alias for Cyrillic
languages
| is there an issue with this sample?
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| Scientific articles
| Scientific articles
| [header repeated for clarity]
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| (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Search/haswbstatement:P31=Q13442814,
as of now 42M): in many cases the same label is repeated in different languages
(e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q27860672). In some cases, there could be
articles with parallel titles in different languages (e.g.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q59238742 |
(https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Search/haswbstatement:P31=Q13442814, as
of now 42M): in many cases the same label is repeated in different languages
(e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q27860672). Generally the original title is
available (or a translation to English). Original non-English titles are
frequently missing. In some cases, there could be articles with parallel titles
in different languages (e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q59238742. One title
for @en , one for @it, |
| Open questions
| Open questions
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| What are all the mul-<script> codes that we should start with?
| What are all the mul-<script> codes that we should start
with? mul-latn seems the most frequent
| I think everybody agrees about the
frequency (except Mahir)
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| Can items still be found when no label is present in the
language?
| A developer statement that this wont an
issue should be sufficient to deleted it from the task description.
@Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE can you confirm? |
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| Search results are currently (also) ranked by the number of
labels, how to ensure ranking still works?
| A developer statement that this wont an issue
should be sufficient to deleted it from the task description.
@Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE can you confirm? |
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| Should the "mul-latn" label be displayed in a grayed out
form when a description is present?
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| How will this work in LUA infoboxes? Currently users copy
en labels to ca/cs/da/es/nb even when the fallback works.
| A developer statement that this wont an
issue should be sufficient to deleted it from the task description.
@Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE can you confirm? |
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| How to prevent that now empty label fields aren't filled
with inappropriate label (loss of data quality)?
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