Amire80 added a comment. Etherpad of the discussion at MWDS 2016: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WikiDev16-T112987
Copy: Session name: Separating infoboxes and navboxes from article content Meeting goal: "unified plan for the future of infoboxes and navboxes (overly optimistic)" Meeting style: Scope Narrowing Phabricator task link: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112987 Topics for discussion: * Should infoboxes be stored inline, or separately from the wikitext? (See also Multi-Content revisions RFC) * Daniel: migrating already existing infoboxes problematic * Implementation other's than hoo's General notes Everybody knows navboxes and infoboxes. Used and abused. There are several technical solutions, e.g. Wikia and WMF's Mobile apps. Hoo has another plan. Wikia: New markup, xml-based. Mobile: They turned it off because it was too easy to edit them. Gabriel: "content widgets", syntax for direc queries from Wikidata C. Scott's suggestion: Marius (hoo) - "Magic infoboxes" implemention: capiunto - small extension for Scribunto that helps make creating / formatting infoboxes easier (as they exist now) decouple infoboxes from page content: * separate schema definition * separate data defintion (can be local and/or from wikidata) * lua modules for formatting (e.g. capiunto) CScott: this (consistent formatting) makes scraping easier Daniel: parameters still would be wikitext Trevor: note templates containing subtemplates or runs of multiple templates which open/continue/close a single transclusion JamesF: E.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_ship_begin#Special_capabilities (contains 4 subtemplates including the flags) marktraceur (EPL comment): I think ^ would present more problems than just the subtemplates, based on it being a "begin" template, and therefore probably an unbalanced DOM fragment quiddity (EPL comment): or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_currency which uses {{native name}}, {{flag}}, and {{url}}. DJ: how to handle converting units (e.g.)? Daniel: there would be formatter for dates, units, etc. and lua can be used to help deal with specific types of information (e.g. timezones) CScott: have toolbox in lua for most stuff Trevor: Why even use DOM? CScott: Because I haven't finished [..?..] yet. Jiang (etherpad): many infobox are not as simple as key-value, e.g.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jordan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Lewis TheDJ: infoboxes don't just contain simple key-value pairs. E.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monterrey_Institute_of_Technology_and_Higher_Education https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McKail,_Western_Australia (a list of suburbs around a town) Tim: Module:Infobox is used on 2.5 million pages in en.wikipedia CScott - topics to discuss: * any implementation other than hoo's? * migration issue not all data / properties are represneted on wikidata, but there still is option of having local data for such cases Use the ~100 colors in WikiData? http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/tree.html?q=1075&rp=279&method=list CScott: One goal is to make data easier to read for machines, but another important goal is to make the data more accessible to humans, in particular in "small" wikis. TheDJ: Could we do it similarly to Commons metadata migration? Potential action items * "Dumb" migration, like commons metadata * Migration toolkit * Survey/classification of existing templates (survey quality and distribution) 2.5 million + infoboxes, but how many *types* of infoboxes * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_infoboxes TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112987 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: cscott, Amire80 Cc: jmadler, Lokal_Profil, Bianjiang, Jdlrobson, GWicke, Liuxinyu970226, tarlocesilion, Candalua, Izno, Susannaanas, StudiesWorld, Jdforrester-WMF, Isarra, Qgil, MrStradivarius, hoo, daniel, JanZerebecki, Tgr, Jay8g, ssastry, RobLa, violetto, Amire80, Deskana, Wwes, Lydia_Pintscher, RobLa-WMF, brion, cscott, Aklapper, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Mbch331, Krenair _______________________________________________ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
