Actually you got to have an item to make use of wikidata properties. I think we are making too much of a deal to get or not to get an item in Wikidata. An item just identify something, whether or not this something is important to knowledge or not.
2013/6/20 Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> > I don't see each file on Commons having its own WikiData item, but I > do think each subject of files should have their own item (and some, > but not all of them, may also have their own wikipedia pages). These > files on Commons could make use of properties on wikidata like "is > designed by", "is a copy of", "is an example of", "is the best image > of" or something like that. When the work is a sculpture or a garden > and there are many photos, it would be nice to promote one of them to > "best choice image" for some works, this way you can easily replace > photos across many Wikipedia's for some of the great pictures coming > in with efforts like "Wiki Loves Monuments". > > Similarly, I don't think each poem or each book should have its own > WikiData item, but I think each first edition should have its own > item, and all other editions should be able to link to it, regardless > of translated versions and so on. I see WikiSource and WikiBooks as > the same in this respect. > > 2013/6/20, Martynas Jusevičius <marty...@graphity.org>: > > You probably mean Linked Data? > > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:41 PM, David Cuenca <dacu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> While on the Hackathon I had the opportunity to talk with some people > from > >> sister projects about how they view Wikidata and the relationship it > >> should > >> have to sister projects. Probably you are already familiar with the > views > >> because they have been presented already several times. The hopes are > >> high, > >> in my opinion too high, about what can be accomplished when Wikidata is > >> deployed to sister projects. > >> > >> There are conflicting needs about what belongs into Wikidata and what > >> sister > >> projects need, and that divide it is far greater to be overcome than > just > >> by > >> installing the extension. In fact, I think there is a confusion between > >> the > >> need for Wikidata and the need for structured data. True that Wikidata > >> embodies that technology, but I don't think all problems can be > approached > >> by the same centralized tool. At least not from the social side of it. > >> Wikiquote could have one item for each quote, or Wikivoyage an item for > >> each > >> bar, hostel, restaurant, etc..., and the question will always be: are > they > >> relevant enough to be created in Wikidata? Considering that Wikidata was > >> initially thought for Wikipedia, that scope wouldn't allow those uses. > >> However, the structured data needs could be covered in other ways. > >> > >> It doesn't need to be a big wikidata addressing it all. It could well > be a > >> central Wikidata addressing common issues (like author data, population > >> data, etc), plus other Wikidata installs on each sister project that > >> requires it. For instance there could be a data.wikiquote.org, a > >> data.wikivoyage.org, etc that would cater for the needs of each > community, > >> that I predict will increase as soon as the benefits become clear, and > of > >> course linked to the central Wikidata whenever needed. Even Commons > could > >> be > >> "wikidatized" with each file becoming an item and having different > labels > >> representing the file name depending on the language version being > >> accessed. > >> > >> Could be this the right direction to go? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Micru > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikidata-l mailing list > >> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikidata-l mailing list > > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >
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