On 10/01/14 03:21, emw wrote:
What about monthly/dump-based aggregated property usage statistics?Property usage statistics would be very valuable, Dimitris. It would help inform community decisions about how to steer changes in property usage with less disruption. It would have other significant benefits as well. Getting daily counts like https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/Popular_properties back up and running would be a good place to start. That report hasn't been updated since October 2013. We could go further by showing counts for all properies, not just the top 100. More detailed data would be great, too. Wikidata editors recently posted a list of the most popular objects for 'instance of' (P31) claims at https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property_talk:P31&oldid=99405143#Value_statistics. Having daily data like that for all properties would be quite useful.
Thanks for the suggestions. I will put all of these on the list for the Wikidata Toolkit development. Providing up-to-date analytics of this kind is a good basic use case for this project. (Btw, the project starts officially in mid Feb and runs for six months, but we will start working before that already; but there will be a bit more planning before we start hacking).
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If anyone does end up doing something like this, I would recommend archiving the data at http://dumps.wikimedia.org/other/ in addition to posting it in a regularly updated report in Wikidata. Cheers, Eric https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Emw On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Dimitris Kontokostas <kontokos...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de <mailto:kontokos...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>> wrote: What about monthly/dump-based aggregated property usage statistics? People would be able to check property trends or maybe subscribe to specific properties via rss. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de <mailto:daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de>> wrote: Am 08.01.2014 16:20, schrieb Thomas Douillard: > Hi, a problem seems (not very surprisingly) to emerge into Wikidata : the > managing of the evolution of how we do things on Wikidata. > > Properties are deleted, which made some consumer of the datas sometimes a little > frustrated they are not informed of that and could not take part of the discussion. They are informed if they follow the relevant channels. There's no way to inform them if they don't. These channels can very likely be improved, yes. That being said: a property that is still widely used should very rarely be deleted, if at all. Usually, properties would be phased out by replacing them with another property, and only then they get deleted. Of course, 3rd parties that rely on specific properties would still face the problem that the property they use is simply no longer used (that's the actual problem - whether it is deleted doesn't really matter, I think). So, the question is really: how should 3rd party users be notified in changes of policy and best practice regarding the usage and meaning of properties? That's an interesting question, one that doesn't have a technical solution I can see. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Dimitris Kontokostas Department of Computer Science, University of Leipzig Research Group: http://aksw.org Homepage:http://aksw.org/DimitrisKontokostas _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
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