Hoi,
There are standards that define British English et al. It makes part of the
ISO codes. We do not have to invent something like "ISO 639-3eng".
Thanks,
GerardM
On 5 May 2014 20:39, Scott MacLeod <worlduniversityandsch...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Joe, Magnus, Andrew, GerardM, Jane, Daniel and Wikidatans,
>
> Since "Language fallback is not a luxury like it is for British English,
> it is essential for all the smaller languages. It is what prevents it from
> being editable / usable" (per GerardM), and in terms of Reasonator,
> statements, and careful design (DanielK), what are current Wikidata
> processes to plan eventually for all 7,106 living languages (plus even dead
> and invented languages) in the world per "Ethnologue: Languages of the
> World, Seventeenth edition" (http://www.ethnologue.com/statistics/size),
> as people add them, and use, for example, the ISO coding system (or
> similar) for this, to anticipate not yet added languages, and especially
> for 'smaller' languages that GerardM mentions?
>
> In terms of British English (en-gb) and English (en) distinction, why not
> just code English in Wikidata as "ISO 639-3eng" per
> http://www.ethnologue.com/language/eng as part of a careful design for
> all languages, and then build out for smaller languages? (CC wiki WUaS is
> planning wiki schools in all 7,106 languages, plus dead and invented
> languages).
>
> It seems that using or keying in on the ISO system, or a similar one,
> would allow for remarkable extensibility and careful design of Wikidata, as
> well as fallback for other languages such as Hindi, Odia or Malayalam.
> Cheers,
> Scott
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:11 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Hoi,
>> I am talking about statements.. I am not asking for selecting items that
>> have no label in a language.. This would only work if auto descriptions are
>> in use.
>> Thanks,
>> GerardM
>>
>>
>> On 5 May 2014 12:52, Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 05.05.2014 10:57, schrieb Gerard Meijssen:
>>> > Hoi,
>>> > When the "other languages" box needs to become more flexible, it is a
>>> different
>>> > problem that has nothing to do with the ability to understand what
>>> statements
>>> > are made. At this time it is an absolute inability when there is no
>>> label in
>>> > *YOUR* language.
>>>
>>> You are talking about picking an item as a link target when creating a
>>> statement
>>> when tehre is no label for the target item in your exact variant?
>>>
>>> Yes, we can and should implement fallback for that more swiftly. In
>>> fact, I was
>>> under the impression this was already in place... Lydia, do we have
>>> ticket for that?
>>>
>>> -- daniel
>>>
>>> PS: it's not an *absolute* inability: you can enter the ID directly. But
>>> that's
>>> not very nice, I know.
>>>
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