Hi Sam, thanks for this suggestion. Laying the groundwork for "Structured X" (and follow-up projects with such a more specific focus) is one of the key themes of our proposal, and X=history would fit in with several of the bits we are planning (cf. Task 4.1): - we aim to bring in metadata from as much of the scholarly literature as possible, which would always include dates, but may include pointers to historic events as a topic being discussed in a publication; - we also aim to explore use cases around museum collections; - we plan to build tools that facilitate using and expanding the Wikidata ontology.
I poked around a bit on the Papyrus site and could not find any information about their ontology, nor would Google tell me anything about the CIDAR ontology that you mention - can you provide some pointers? In the meantime, the timeline for the proposal submission has been updated: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Wikidata_for_research#Timeline . Contributions to any of the items would be much appreciated. Thanks and cheers, Daniel -- http://www.naturkundemuseum-berlin.de/en/institution/mitarbeiter/mietchen-daniel/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen/Publications http://okfn.org http://wikimedia.org On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Sam Smith <smsmith...@aol.com> wrote: > I am putting ideas together for a project that I am referring to as > "Structured History." The objective is to create a systematic way of > accessing information of an historical nature within an ontological context > that would permit historical reasoning. The elements of the project are (1) > access to structured historical information, which WikiData is beginning to > provide, and (2) relating the body of structured information to one or more > overall ontological frameworks, and then providing the tools for accessing, > displaying and analyzing the data. I have not yet identified an ontology > that would be most appropriate for historical purposes, other than an EU > funded project called Papyrus http://www.ict-papyrus.eu - but this seems to > be used by no one. Therefore, I would suggest that the development of an > historical ontology (possibly building on the work of Papyrus, which in turn > built on the museum ontology CIDAR) be part of a "structured history" project. > > The model consists of "historical entities" that can be anything that exists > or existed in time and place (animate, human or inanimate - book, river), > Places, and Events (which may be nested so that a War event can consist of a > sequence of Battle events). > > If a project of this scope were undertaken, it could provide the framework > within which other projects, such as the history of science, could be > developed. Issues with regard to WikiData are: (1) to what degree will > information (that may be available in Wikipedia articles) be structured > sufficiently for incorporation into the structured history project? (2) How > can historical narratives be broken down into elements that can be collected > in a meaningful way that retains semantic validity (veracity)? The system > should be comprehensive enough that all information and artifacts in museums > and libraries could be incorporated, either directly into the ontology or by > cross-reference (to CIDAR for instance). > > I would be interested to see if there would be support for such an endeavor, > and for incorporating it into the proposal for WikiData for Research. > Thanks - Sam Smith (SammyWiki) > Michigan > > -----Original Message----- > From: wikidata-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org > [mailto:wikidata-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of > wikidata-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 7:01 AM > To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Wikidata-l Digest, Vol 37, Issue 20 > > Send Wikidata-l mailing list submissions to > wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikidata-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikidata-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: > Contents of Wikidata-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Use cases for Wikidata in research contexts (Daniel Mietchen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 18:43:06 +0100 > From: Daniel Mietchen <daniel.mietc...@googlemail.com> > To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." > <wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: [Wikidata-l] Use cases for Wikidata in research contexts > Message-ID: > <can6n2b0j6lyot4dgrjexrbq_eodkvw1nshkpxqkspapi94z...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Dear all, > > we are building the Wikidata for Research proposal [1] around use cases for > Wikidata (or Wikibase) in research contexts (cf. Task 4.1). > > So if you are using Wikidata or Wikibase in research contexts already, or are > contemplating to do so, we'd appreciate your comments. > > The same goes for use cases for DBpedia that would be enhanced by having a > Wikidata/ Wikibase implementation. > > Thanks, > > Daniel > > [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Wikidata_for_research > > -- > http://www.naturkundemuseum-berlin.de/en/institution/mitarbeiter/mietchen-daniel/ > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen/Publications > http://okfn.org > http://wikimedia.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > > > End of Wikidata-l Digest, Vol 37, Issue 20 > ****************************************** > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
