Rob Lanphier, 26/09/2014 22:59:
Thanks for the analysis, Gergo! I was going to split Luis' proposal
into a separate wiki page, but I see Nemo has linked to this page as the
"Canonical page on the topic":
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Files_and_licenses_concept
Without a deep reading that I'm admittedly just not going to have time
for, it's hard to tell how related the page that Nemo linked to is to
the concepts that Luis is trying to capture.
The gist of that idea is: associate actual copyright metadata to
content; use ContentHandler for certain blobs of information. Krinkle
and others were the main authors of that page and the idea was never
worked on, but it can be extended in many ways... except that it's a bit
pointless to expand it further when even a smaller scope is hard to work on.
Other than files, the two classic pain points about copyright metadata are
a) display of page authors
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2994#c14
b) metadata about works (e.g. books) stored across pages
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15071
Could someone (Nemo?
Luis?) merge Luis's requirements into the "canonical page" to Luis'
satisfaction, so I can delete most of the information from our backlog?
I'll keep the item on the MW Core backlog, since I don't know where else
to put it, but it's probably going to be relatively low priority for
that team.
Multimedia team and Wikidata team, could you make sure you're
considering the requirements that Luis brought up as you build your
solution? Even if you decide to punt on some of the things that aren't
strictly necessary for files, it's still good to make sure you don't
paint us in a corner when if/when we do try to do something more
sophisticated for articles.
A solution based on an external wiki (Wikidata) as for files... may work
for (b) but won't for (a). That said, the original idea for files could
be reused for both (a) and (b).
One thing I'll note, though, before we get too complacent in thinking
that files are somehow simpler than articles, we should consider these
relatively common scenarios:
* Group photo with potentially different per-person personality rights
* PDF of a slide deck with many images
* PDF of a Wikipedia article :-)
The last point being bug 2994 (and friends).
Nemo
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