That makes a lot of sense! I had tried to change the namespace to "120" in the URL but I was missing the "srwhat=text" (which is required to have the correct response). I will fix this in the reconciliation service first, and then have a closer look at CirrusSearch to see how it works. Thanks a lot for your help. Cheers, Régis
Le ven. 20 sept. 2019 à 00:25, Lucas Werkmeister <m...@lucaswerkmeister.de> a écrit : > The API version was missing srnamespace=120 (only searches main namespace > by default, not Item namespace) and srwhat=text (no idea what the default > here is tbh). This version works: > https://data.biblissima.fr/w/api.php?action=query&list=search&srsearch=Jakob%20von%20Viraggio&srnamespace=120&srwhat=text > > Cheers, > Lucas > On 19.09.19 17:44, Régis Robineau wrote: > > Got it! Thanks. The developer of Openrefine-Wikibase is telling me > that, inexplicably in my own instance, there is a discrepancy between what > is returned in the Mediawiki search UI: > > https://data.biblissima.fr/w/index.php?search=Jakob+von+Viraggio&title=Sp%C3%A9cial%3ARecherche&profile=default&fulltext=1 > (1 > result) > and what is returned by the API: > > https://data.biblissima.fr/w/api.php?action=query&list=search&srsearch=Jakob%20von%20Viraggio > (0 result) > What could be the reason for that? In theory both result sets should > match, do they? This problem should not be related to CirrusSearch, but I > may be wrong... Any idea? > > Cheers, > Régis > > > > > Le jeu. 19 sept. 2019 à 12:15, Lucas Werkmeister <m...@lucaswerkmeister.de> > a écrit : > >> Special:Search is the general MediaWiki search, only partially related to >> Wikibase, that’s why I specified you should test the other one :) >> >> Installing CirrusSearch is probably your best bet, if it’s possible for >> you, yeah. >> >> Cheers, >> Lucas >> On 19.09.19 10:52, Régis Robineau wrote: >> >> Thank you for getting me on the right track. You're right, we're not >> using CirrusSearch for the moment, and the suggestion box (at the top right >> corner) does not perform cross-languages search in our instance: the >> autocomplete mechanism is only aware of the current active language. But on >> the other hand the main Wikibase search (via Special:Search) does seem to >> search all available languages... >> I will ask the openrefine-wikibase developer if he thinks there is a way >> to solve this in his application. But anyway I guess the best way to >> benefit from a proper cross-languages search, both within Wikibase and for >> the reconciliation service, would be to use CirrusSearch as well. What do >> you think? >> >> Cheers, >> Régis >> >> Le jeu. 19 sept. 2019 à 00:08, Lucas Werkmeister < >> m...@lucaswerkmeister.de> a écrit : >> >>> It looks like the openrefine-wikibase reconciliation service uses the >>> wbsearchentities API to find items. As far as I’m aware, the default >>> SQL-based Wikibase search also searches other languages, but still, I think >>> the most likely reason you’re getting different results is that Wikidata >>> uses WikibaseCirrusSearch >>> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikibaseCirrusSearch>, and I >>> assume your wiki doesn’t. If you use entity search on your wiki directly >>> (i. e. not via Special:Search, but in suggestion boxes), does >>> cross-language search work as it should or does it have the same problem? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Lucas >>> On 18.09.19 22:55, Régis Robineau wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'd need help on the Wikidata/Wikibase reconciliation service for >>> OpenRefine. >>> >>> Context: I have my own Wikibase and WDQS instances in production, and I >>> want to set up a reconciliation service on top of it, so that users can >>> perform matchings from their local OpenRefine. I'm using the same tool as >>> Wikidata, i.e. https://github.com/wetneb/openrefine-wikibase. The web >>> service works fine, I can reconcile strings in OpenRefine against the data >>> stored in my Wikibase instance... >>> >>> Issue: But there is a noteworthy difference compared to how the >>> Wikidata reconciliation service works: >>> - with Wikidata, i.e. by using the web service URL with the "en" >>> language prefix (https://tools.wmflabs.org/openrefine-wikidata/en/api), >>> I am able to find matches among labels in any other language of a Wikidata >>> item. For instance, if I send a request for "Jacopo de Fazio", which is an >>> alias in French and Italian for Q313460 >>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q313460>, OpenRefine will match Q313460 >>> as expected, even if I'm using the "en" language code in the web service >>> url. >>> - Whereas in my own instance, i.e. by using my own "openrefine-wikibase" >>> reconciliation service, it can only perform matching of labels/aliases in >>> the same language: e.g. if I use " >>> https://my-service.org/openrefine-wikidata/en/api";, the web service >>> only searches for labels in English in my Wikibase. This means that I am >>> forced to launch the reconciliation process in OpenRefine for every single >>> language, one by one. >>> >>> I do not know how the Wikidata reconciliation service is able to take >>> into account all the labels/aliases in all the languages of a given >>> Wikidata item. The data is modeled in the same way in Wikidata and in my >>> Wikibase, and I do not see any difference between the two in the way the >>> RDF data is structured into the respective triplestores... >>> >>> How can I enable the same behaviour as in the Wikidata reconciliation >>> service? (i.e. to look for labels/aliases in every languages in one API >>> call) >>> This would heavily improve the reconciliation process in OpenRefine for >>> my users. >>> >>> Thanks a lot for your help! >>> >>> Régis >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata-tech mailing >>> listWikidata-tech@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-tech >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata-tech mailing list >>> Wikidata-tech@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-tech >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-tech mailing >> listWikidata-tech@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-tech >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-tech mailing list >> Wikidata-tech@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-tech >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-tech mailing > listWikidata-tech@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-tech > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-tech mailing list > Wikidata-tech@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-tech >
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