On 09/24/2015 11:31 AM, Tom Morris wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider
> <pfpschnei...@gmail.com <mailto:pfpschnei...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 09/24/2015 10:59 AM, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
>     > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Tom Morris <tfmor...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:tfmor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >> Thanks!  Is there any more information on the issue with MusicBrainz?
>     >>
>     >> 17:26:27 <DanielK_WMDE> sjoerddebruin: yes, we went for MusicBrainz 
> first,
>     >> but it turned out to be impractical. you basically have to run their
>     >> software in order to use their dumps
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> MusicBrainz was a major source of information for Freebase, so they 
> appear
>     >> to have been able to figure out how to parse the dumps (and they 
> already
>     >> have the MusicBrainz & Wikipedia IDs correlated).
>     >>
>     >> Is there more detail, perhaps in a bug somewhere?
>     >
>     > The issue is that they do offer dumps but you need to set up your own
>     > musicbrainz server to really use it. This was too time-intensive and
>     > complicated for the students to make progress on during their project.
>     > Because of this they decided to instead opt for another dataset
>     > instead to get started. In the future Musicbrainz should still get
>     > done. If anyone wants to work on adding more datasets to the tool
>     > please let me know.
>     >
>     >
>     > Cheers
>     > Lydia
>     >
> 
>     This is to add MusicBrainz to the primary source tool, not anything else?
> 
> 
> It's apparently worse than that (which I hadn't realized until I re-read the
> transcript).  It sounds like it's just going to generate little warning icons
> for "bad" facts and not lead to the recording of any new facts at all.
> 
> 17:22:33<Lydia_WMDE> we'll also work on getting the extension deployed that 
> will help with checking against 3rd party databases
> 17:23:33<Lydia_WMDE> the result of constraint checks and checks against 3rd 
> party databases will then be used to display little indicators next to a 
> statement in case it is problematic
> 17:23:47<Lydia_WMDE> i hope this way more people become aware of issues and 
> can help fix them
> 17:24:35<sjoerddebruin> Do you have any names of databases that are 
> supported? :)
> 17:24:59<Lydia_WMDE> sjoerddebruin: in the first version the german national 
> library. it can be extended later
> 
> 
> I know Freebase is deemed to be nasty and unreliable, but is MusicBrainz
> considered trustworthy enough to import directly or will its facts need to be
> dripped through the primary source soda straw one at a time too?
> 
> Tom


I wonder how these warnings will work.  I can see lots and lots of warnings
due to minor variations in names of artists.

I do agree that MusicBrainz data should pass the Wikidata bar, as the data in
MusicBrainz appear to me to be noteworthy and related to information in some
Wiki (and true, although this is not part of the Wikidata bar as far as I know).

peter

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