But also Wikidata brings lots of mistakes/issues up. Vito
2015-09-27 23:12 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>: > Hoi, > In them old days, this would be called a typical case of gigo or garbage > in garbage out. It is hardly the only instance where what we define in > Wikidata is not what we find in one of our sources. > > It is to be expected, it is not something to get upset about. > > At this time I am working on a division of the Netherlands that is largely > wrong in Wikipedia. That is at most worthy of a blog post, telling people > about it, making a list that makes this division understandable for use on > any Wikipedia that wants it. > > It is good to appreciate how erroneous Wikidata can be. It is good to > appreciate that this happens with the best of intentions. The problem is > not that there are errors, the problem is that we are lacking in well > crafted workflows,build to help people fix what is wrong and report on it. > We do not zoom in on known issues and therefore every item, every statement > without a source is an issue. Even worse, many sourced statements are > questionable but we have no way of classifying sources. Everything is a > potential problem and we do not contain errors and have people work on what > we know may be wrong. > > That is an issue worth talking about.. The rest is just a drop in the > ocean. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 27 September 2015 at 20:06, Thad Guidry <thadgui...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I live there sometimes. :) >> >> Partner City (an alias of that Sister City description) does even help >> make them closer to any sister city. >> >> If anyone disagrees with me, then you would have to fully describe what >> the property Sister City really means...because there is little to go on >> other than the idea of a "twin city". >> >> Thad >> +ThadGuidry <https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry> >> >> On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> From a technical point of view there's nothing wrong with those >>> statemets. >>> >>> Original infos were added by >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/ILoveKorea which >>> doesn't seem to be a vandal. How did you find they are wrong? >>> >>> >>> Vito >>> >>> 2015-09-27 18:57 GMT+02:00 Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgr...@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> Italian Wikipedia says it's correct: >>>> https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hefei >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 8:21 PM Thad Guidry <thadgui...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> OK, it seems that Wikipedia does have a few nice features. :) >>>>> >>>>> I was able to quickly search History on the entity and find that >>>>> Dexbot had imported the erroneous statements >>>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Dexbot <-- pretty cool options >>>>> there, Good Job whomever ! >>>>> >>>>> and let the User (owner of the bot) know of the problem. >>>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Ladsgroup >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thad >>>>> +ThadGuidry <https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Thad Guidry <thadgui...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I had to clean up this entity that had Sister City property filled in >>>>>> with lots of erroneous statements for it that I removed. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q185684 >>>>>> >>>>>> How can I figure out where the import went wrong, how it happened, >>>>>> and how to ensure it doesn't happen again ? How does one look at >>>>>> Wikidata >>>>>> bots and their efficiency or incorrectness ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Trying to learn more, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thad >>>>>> +ThadGuidry <https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikidata mailing list >>>>> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikidata mailing list >>>> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata mailing list >>> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > >
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