Yep, thanks! Wilse there in duplicate (here's <http://mgiraldo.github.io/pic/?address.AddressTypeID=*&address.CountryID=*&Nationality=*&gender.TermID=*&process.TermID=*&role.TermID=*&format.TermID=*&biography.TermID=*&collection.TermID=*&Location=*&DisplayName=(Anders~1%20AND%20Beer~1%20AND%20Wilse~1)&Date=*> the correct one). The other will be gone in an hour or so when I update. I look forward to looking at these lists, thanks! It will probably next week before I finish ingesting birth & death locations from WD.
d On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 5:27 PM, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Forgot to mention; Anders Beer Wilse in Kulturnav > http://kulturnav.org/2b94216b-f2fc-46a3-b2ce-eeb93aa19185 > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 11:19 PM, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I think the Norwegian lists are a subset of Preus Photo Museums list. It >> is now maintained partly by Nasjonalbiblioteket (the Norwegian one, not the >> Swedish one) and Norsk Lokalhistorisk Institutt. For examle; Anders Beer >> Wilse in nowiki,[1] at Lokalhistoriewiki,[2] and at Nasjonalbiblioteket.[3] >> >> Kulturnav is a kind of maintained ontology, where most of the work is >> done by local museums. The software for the site itself is made (in part) >> by a grant from Norsk Kulturråd. >> >> We should connect as much as possible of our resources to resources at >> Kulturnav, and not just copy data. That said, we don't have a very good >> model for hov to materialize data from external sites and make it available >> for our client sites, so our option is more or less just to copy. It is >> better to maintain data at one location. >> >> [1] https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Beer_Wilse >> [2] https://lokalhistoriewiki.no/index.php/Anders_Beer_Wilse >> [3] http://www.nb.no/nmff/fotograf.php?fotograf_id=3050 >> >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 9:51 PM, André Costa <andre.co...@wikimedia.se> >> wrote: >> >>> Happy to be of use. There is also one for: >>> * Swedish photo studios [1] >>> * Norwegian photographers[2] >>> * Norwegian photo studios [3] >>> I'm less familiar with these though and don't have a timeline for >>> wikidata integration. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> André >>> >>> [1] http://kulturnav.org/deb494a0-5457-4e5f-ae9b-e1826e0de681 >>> [2] http://kulturnav.org/508197af-6e36-4e4f-927c-79f8f63654b2 >>> [3] http://kulturnav.org/7d2a01d1-724c-4ad2-a18c-e799880a0241 >>> ------ >>> André Costa >>> GLAM developer >>> Wikimedia Sverige >>> On 9 Dec 2015 15:07, "David Lowe" <davidl...@nypl.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, André! I don't know that I've found that before. Great to get >>>> country (or region) specific lists like this. >>>> D >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, December 9, 2015, André Costa <andre.co...@wikimedia.se> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> In case you haven't come across it before >>>>> http://kulturnav.org/1f368832-7649-4386-97b6-ae40cce8752b is the >>>>> entry point to the Swedish database of (primarily early) photographers >>>>> curated by the Nordic Museum in Stockholm. >>>>> >>>>> It's not that well integrated into Wikidata yet but the plan is to fix >>>>> that during early 2016. That would also allow a variety of photographs on >>>>> Wikimedia Commons to be linked to these entries. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> André >>>>> >>>>> André Costa | GLAM developer, Wikimedia Sverige | >>>>> andre.co...@wikimedia.se | +46 (0)733-964574 >>>>> >>>>> Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige. >>>>> Läs mer på blimedlem.wikimedia.se >>>>> >>>>> On 9 December 2015 at 02:44, David Lowe <davidl...@nypl.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Tom. >>>>>> I'll have to look at this specific case when I'm back at work >>>>>> tomorrow, as it does seem you found something in error. >>>>>> As for my process: with WD, I queried out the label, description & >>>>>> country of citizenship, dob & dod of of everyone with occupation: >>>>>> photographer. After some cleaning, I can get the WD data formatted like >>>>>> my >>>>>> own (Name, Nationality, Dates). I can then do a simple match, where >>>>>> everything matches exactly. For the remainder, I then match names and >>>>>> dates- without Nationality, which is often very "soft" information. For >>>>>> those that pass a smell test (one is "English" the other is "British") I >>>>>> pass those along, too. For those with greater discrepancies, I look still >>>>>> closer. For those with still greater discrepancies, I manually, >>>>>> individually query my database for anyone with the same last name & same >>>>>> first initial to catch misspellings or different transliterations. I also >>>>>> occasionally put my entire database into open refine to catch instances >>>>>> where, for instance, a Chinese name has been given as FamilyName, >>>>>> GivenName >>>>>> in one source, and GivenName, FamilyName in another. >>>>>> In short, this is scrupulously- and manually- checked data. I'm not >>>>>> savvy enough to let an algorithm make my mistakes for me! But let me know >>>>>> if this seems to be more than bad luck of the draw- finding the >>>>>> conflicting >>>>>> data you found. >>>>>> I have also to say, I may suppress the Niepce Museum collection, as >>>>>> it's from a really crappy list of photographers in their collection >>>>>> which I >>>>>> found many years ago, and can no longer find. I don't want to blame them >>>>>> for the discrepancy, but that might be the source. I don't know. >>>>>> As I start to query out places of birth & death from WD in the next >>>>>> days, I expect to find more discrepancies. (Just today, I found dozens of >>>>>> folks whom ULAN gendered one way, and WD another- but were undeniably the >>>>>> same photographer. ) >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> David >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, December 8, 2015, Tom Morris <tfmor...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you explain what "indexing" means in this context? Is there >>>>>>> some type of matching process? How are duplicates resolved, if at all? >>>>>>> Was >>>>>>> the Wikidata info extracted from a dump or one of the APIs? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I looked at the first person I picked at random, Pierre Berdoy >>>>>>> (ID:269710), I see that both Wikidata and Wikipedia claim that he was >>>>>>> born >>>>>>> in Biarritz while the NYPL database claims he was born in Nashua, NH. >>>>>>> So, >>>>>>> it would appear that there are either two different people with the same >>>>>>> name, born in different places, or the birth place is wrong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://mgiraldo.github.io/pic/?&biography.TermID=2028247&Location=269710|42.7575,-71.4644 >>>>>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3383941 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 7:10 PM, David Lowe <davidl...@nypl.org> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>>> The Photographers' Identities Catalog (PIC) is an ongoing project >>>>>>>> of visualizing photo history through the lives of photographers and >>>>>>>> photo >>>>>>>> studios. I have information on 115,000 photographers and studios as of >>>>>>>> tonight. It is still under construction, but as I've almost completed >>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>> initial indexing of the ~12,000 photographers in WikiData, I thought >>>>>>>> I'd >>>>>>>> share it with you. We (the New York Public Library) hope to launch it >>>>>>>> officially in mid to late January. This represents about 12 years >>>>>>>> worth of >>>>>>>> my work of researching in NYPL's photography collection, censuses and >>>>>>>> business directories, and scraping or indexing trusted websites, >>>>>>>> databases, >>>>>>>> and published biographical dictionaries pertaining to photo history. >>>>>>>> Again, please bear in mind that our programmer is still hard at >>>>>>>> work (and I continue to refine and add to the data*), but we welcome >>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> feedback, questions, critiques, etc. To see the WikiData photographers, >>>>>>>> select WikiData from the Source dropdown. Have fun! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *PIC* >>>>>>>> <http://mgiraldo.github.io/pic/?address.AddressTypeID=*&address.CountryID=*&Nationality=*&gender.TermID=*&process.TermID=*&role.TermID=*&format.TermID=*&biography.TermID=*&collection.TermID=*&Location=*&DisplayName=*&Date=*> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Tomorrow, for instance, I'll start mining Wikidata for birth & >>>>>>>> death locations. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Wikidata mailing list >>>>>>>> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikidata mailing list >>>>>> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikidata mailing list >>>> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata mailing list >>> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > >
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