I remember the discussions, but logs of mailing lists are not policy. בתאריך יום ב׳, 22 באפר׳ 2019, 09:20, מאת Gerard Meijssen < gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>:
> Hoi, > Read the logs of the mailing lists... They go back a long time. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 23:17, Amir E. Aharoni < > amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > >> I'm really not sure that creating a project in an Arabic dialect requires >> the blessing of the Board. I'm not aware of any written document that makes >> Arabic varieties special with regard to approving a new project, since the >> same Language committee policies apply to it: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_proposal_policy >> >> The policy of adding languages to Wikidata is not the same, however. To >> be honest, I don't know it very well, but I'm pretty sure that it also >> doesn't have any special provisions for Arabic varieties. >> >> בתאריך יום א׳, 21 באפר׳ 2019, 23:17, מאת Houcemeddine A. Turki < >> turkiabdelwa...@hotmail.fr>: >> >>> Dear Mr., >>> I thank you for your answer. This is just what I meant. If Wikidata >>> supports Arabic dialects, there will be no need to create tens of >>> Wikipedias and Wiktionaries. >>> Yours Sincerely, >>> Houcemeddine Turki (he/him) >>> Medical Student, Faculty of Medicine of Sfax, University of Sfax, Tunisia >>> Undergraduate Researcher, UR12SP36 >>> GLAM and Education Coordinator, Wikimedia TN User Group >>> Member, WikiResearch Tunisia >>> Member, Wiki Project Med >>> Member, WikiIndaba Steering Committee >>> Member, Wikimedia and Library User Group Steering Committee >>> Co-Founder, WikiLingua Maghreb >>> Founder, TunSci >>> ____________________ >>> +21629499418 >>> >>> >>> -------- Message d'origine -------- >>> De : Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> >>> Date : 2019/04/21 16:18 (GMT+01:00) >>> À : Discussion list for the Wikidata project < >>> wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org> >>> Objet : Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata and Arabic dialects >>> >>> Hoi, >>> All Arabic languages are in principle eligible for localisation in >>> translatewiki.net. At the time, the WMF board was not all too pleased >>> with an Egyptian Wikipedia. Having said that, localisation is not a problem >>> from a language committee position. Having new projects in Arabic family >>> languages requires the blessing of the board. >>> Thanks, >>> GerardM >>> >>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 at 16:05, Houcemeddine A. Turki < >>> turkiabdelwa...@hotmail.fr> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> I thank you for your efforts. It was a long time since I began working >>>> on the issue of Arabic dialects in wikis. This issue is complicated as it >>>> has many significant sides such as the linguistic side and the >>>> sociopolitical side. In 2008, Language Committee approved the creation of >>>> Egyptian Wikipedia. Nowadays, many of the articles of this Wikipedia are >>>> written in Modern Standard Arabic and not in Egyptian Arabic. Moreover, >>>> most of the articles written in Egyptian Wikipedia are stubs. This can be >>>> explained by the difficulty of writing Egyptian and finding technical terms >>>> in this language as well as many other Arabic dialects due to the lack of >>>> standardization. In 2017, I proposed in AICCSA 2017 conference (ERA C Class >>>> Conference) the that Wikidata can be used a knowledgebase for Arabic >>>> dialects ( >>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321039195_Using_WikiData_as_a_Multi-lingual_Multi-dialectal_Dictionary_for_Arabic_Dialects). >>>> In fact, we can be simply done by adding labels in Arabic dialects to all >>>> Wikidata entities and we will not face the matters faced by active Egyptian >>>> Wikipedia editors as we do not need to formulate statements into sentences >>>> to put them in Wikidata. Furthermore, the database can be useful for a >>>> variety of other important tasks such as Named Entity Recognition. All what >>>> we should do is to translate Mediawiki system messages to Arabic dialects >>>> and add labels, descriptions and aliases in Arabic dialects. Since 2017, I >>>> worked to add support to Tunisian Arabic in Wikidata so that I can convince >>>> users of the accuracy of this solution. As you can know, Tunisian is >>>> represented in Mediawiki with three language codes: aeb, aeb-arab (Arabic >>>> Script) and aeb-latn (Latin Script: Arabizi). I added labels, descriptions >>>> and aliases in aeb-arab and aeb-latn. However, aeb remained without labels. >>>> I ask if you can add a module to Wikidata that adds any label, description >>>> or alias of aeb-arab to aeb. I also ask about your opinions about this >>>> Wikidata project. >>>> Yours Sincerely, >>>> Houcemeddine Turki (he/him) >>>> Medical Student, Faculty of Medicine of Sfax, University of Sfax, >>>> Tunisia >>>> Undergraduate Researcher, UR12SP36 >>>> GLAM and Education Coordinator, Wikimedia TN User Group >>>> Member, WikiResearch Tunisia >>>> Member, Wiki Project Med >>>> Member, WikiIndaba Steering Committee >>>> Member, Wikimedia and Library User Group Steering Committee >>>> Co-Founder, WikiLingua Maghreb >>>> Founder, TunSci >>>> ____________________ >>>> +21629499418 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikidata mailing list >>>> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata mailing list >>> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >
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