There has been a number of discussions about translations. At the moment, the whole situation is very similar to the original interwiki (sitelink) issue -- a lexeme in each language has to point to corresponding lexemes in all other languages. This issue was actually what started Wikidata in the first place :). On one hand, lexemes could just point to Q-items, except that many lexemes do not represent "a concept" (WD requirement), but could be something else like adjective. Also, there is a problem of transitivity - a word in EN translates to FR which translates to HU, but EN might not correspond to HU (I do not know any examples of this, and this could be a made-up issue that could be solved via other means, just like with interwikis). Or we could create a new Wikidata namespace "Sense", and all lexemes will use that.
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:40 PM Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> wrote: > I tried adding translations to Wikidata Lexemes. First I had to add senses > to 2 Lexemes and then I had to add translation statements to those. > > I hope I did it right. Not even sure of that. If I did it right, then I'd > like to say that this is way too complicated. > > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L21957 > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L9286 > > And I had to do it twice, to get the translation to work in both > directions. The worst is though, that after having done this, they show > translation: L21957-S1 > > Which is rather useless. Why can't the Lexeme be shown instead? And then I > mean the text version, not its L-number. > > Polyglot > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 5:26 PM Léa Lacroix <lea.lacr...@wikimedia.de> > wrote: > >> *Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata >> over the last week.* >> Events <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Events> >> >> - Past: Wikidata et Wiktionnaire >> >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2019/Programme/Wikidata_et_Wiktionnaire_:_retour_sur_un_%C3%A9chec_annonc%C3%A9> >> session at the French-speaking WikiConvention by Pamputt >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Pamputt> (slides >> >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_et_Wiktionnaire_-_retour_sur_un_%C3%A9chec_annonc%C3%A9_Wikiconvention2019.pdf> >> ) >> - Upcoming: WikidataWednesday in Vienna >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Events/Vienna/WikidataWednesday>, >> September 18th >> - Upcoming: Wikidata meetup in Paris >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Events/Paris>, September 20th >> - Upcoming: #4 Wikidata tea party/第4回 ウィキデータ茶話会 >> <https://www.facebook.com/events/2456357704647897/>, 20 Sep 2019 in >> Tokyo, Japan >> - Upcoming: Wikibase Workshop/ウィキベースワークショップ >> <https://peatix.com/event/1301388/>, 28 Sep 2019 in Tokyo, Japan >> >> Press, articles, blog posts >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Press_coverage> >> >> - Wikidata gets wordier >> >> <https://magazine.multilingual.com/previewissue/sept-oct-2019/wikidata-gets-wordier/>, >> by Christian Lieske and Felix Sasaki on Multilingual >> - *Non-Parametric Class Completeness Estimators for Collaborative >> Knowledge Graphs -- The Case of Wikidata >> <https://arxiv.org/pdf/1909.01109.pdf>* - Michael Luggen, , et al. >> >> Tool of the week >> >> - Hauki <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Vesihiisi/Hauki> lets you >> browse existing Lexemes, add Senses to them, and easily create new Lexemes >> for common languages and lexical categories. >> >> Other Noteworthy Stuff >> >> - мир (L99999) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L99999> (peace), мир >> (100000) <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L100000> (world/earth) >> and L166666 <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L166666> were >> created >> >> Did you know? >> >> - Newest properties >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ListProperties>: >> - General datatypes: cumulative elevation gain >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7297>, climbing route >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7309> >> - External identifiers: Lower Austrian Museum ID >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7296>, Auckland Museum ID >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7298>, MUBI film ID >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7299>, MUBI person ID >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7300>, Al-Jazeera topic ID >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7301>, Digital Giza ID >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7302>, Grammy Awards >> artist ID <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7303>, Highland >> Historic Environment Record ID >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7304>, Online PWN >> Encyclopedia <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7305>, >> Downdetector >> ID <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7306>, TOP500 System ID >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7307>, National Wildlife >> Refuge Trails ID <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7308>, Maine >> Trail Finder ID <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P7310> >> - New property proposals >> >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Property_proposal> >> to review: >> - General datatypes: Masters Thesis >> >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Masters_Thesis>, >> OFLC classification (New Zealand) >> >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/OFLC_classification_(New_Zealand)>, >> worn by >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/worn_by>, >> station type, interchange, status, first, last and so on >> >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/station_type,_interchange,_status,_first,_last_and_so_on>, >> front and backside >> >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/front_and_backside> >> - External identifiers: Archnet Site ID >> >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archnet_Site_ID>, >> Trail Finder ID >> >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Trail_Finder_ID>, >> ExplorePaTrails ID >> >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/ExplorePaTrails_ID>, >> code DANE >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/code_DANE>, >> ICD-11 >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/ICD-11>, SMHI >> drainage basin ID >> >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/SMHI_drainage_basin_ID>, >> Letteraturaitaliana.net author ID >> >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Letteraturaitaliana.net_author_ID>, >> NMM artist ID >> >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/NMM_artist_ID>, >> Pathway Ontology ID >> >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pathway_Ontology_ID>, >> Mixer game ID >> >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Mixer_game_ID>, >> Vudu video ID >> >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Vudu_video_ID> >> - Query examples: >> - Number of times a Wikidata item for Carl von Linnaeus was created >> <https://w.wiki/8Tb> >> - Picture of species were the author(s) of the first scientific >> description is in WD and connected to Uppsala University Alvin database >> <https://w.wiki/8TM> >> - same query but where we miss a picture in Wikidata >> <https://w.wiki/8TQ> >> - Twins with different places of birth <https://w.wiki/8TX> (source >> <https://twitter.com/WikidataFacts/status/1172905478902505472>) >> - Places in Scottish local government areas <https://w.wiki/8TY> ( >> source <https://twitter.com/Tagishsimon/status/1172506297985654784> >> ) >> - Libraries in Austria <https://w.wiki/8Ta> (source >> <https://twitter.com/LibrErli/status/1171748646980902912>) >> - Schema examples: >> - space probe <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/EntitySchema:E119> >> - Tsunami <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/EntitySchema:E115> >> - Newest WikiProjects >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:WikiProjects>: >> Textile arts >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Textile_arts>, >> Dark <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Dark> >> >> Development >> >> - Started working on two new projects: improving the resource loader >> module <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/4268> and >> tainted >> references <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/4242> >> - Wikidata Bridge: save the Wikidata edit when submitting ( >> phab:T226999 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226999>) >> - Show the label for the Property instead of the id (phab:T227759 >> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227759>) >> - Warn user about blank edit summary on EntitySchema (phab:T230399 >> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230399>) >> >> You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here >> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/4RotIcw5oINo/#R>. If >> you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a >> volunteer >> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/71/query/zfiRgTnZF7zu/?filter=zfiRgTnZF7zu&order=priority>. >> >> Monthly Tasks >> >> - Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed >> above. >> - Comment on property proposals: all open proposals >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Overview> >> - Suggested and open tasks >> >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contribute/Suggested_and_open_tasks> >> ! >> - Contribute to a Showcase item >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Showcase_items> >> . >> - Help translate <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:LanguageStats> >> or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language! >> - Help merge identical items >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Pasleim/projectmerge> across >> Wikimedia projects. >> - Help write the next summary! >> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates/Next> >> >> -- >> Léa Lacroix >> Project Manager Community Communication for Wikidata >> >> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. >> Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 >> 10963 Berlin >> www.wikimedia.de >> >> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. 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