On Sun, 2021-09-19 at 13:41 +0300, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Il 19/09/21 13:10, Peter Patel-Schneider ha scritto: > > "In accordance with funding body requirements, Elsevier does > > offer alternative open access publishing options. Visit our open > > access > > page for full information." > > I did read it, and it says "This journal has an embargo period of 24 > months". Of course one can just ignore such abusive requests and > archive > anyway under a cc-by license the so-called preprint, which will be 99 % > the same thing, but authors may not know that. Advertising such > journals > on this mailing list might be appropriate if the poster explains how to > ignore abusive requests from the publisher.
Also from https://www.elsevier.com/journals/journal-of-web-semantics/1570-8268/open-access-options Details on gold open access articles User rights All articles published gold open access will be immediately and permanently free for everyone to read and download. It thus appears to me that there is no embargo for these papers. My understanding, although this should be confirmed with the journal, is that anyone can pay the open access fee and then the published version of their paper will open access immediately upon publication. It further appears to me that authors funded by a funder that subscribes to Plan S principles will have their funder pay the free. > > In the specific case, some exceptions are admitted by the publisher > for > Plan S compliance but only to certain authors funded by certain > funders. > The result is a very complicated situation > <https://v2.sherpa.ac.uk/id/publication/14154> and a very low open > access rate of some 20 % <https://link.lens.org/y11mtZdDtHg>. I don't > mean to single out JWS as particularly egregious: this is typical of > most venues controlled by closed access publishers (including ACM, > IEEE > etc.). I only mentioned JWS because it was recently advertised on > this > list (and Wiktionary-l). I see that the v2.sherpa.ac.uk page indicates that submitted versions of paper have no restrictions applied by the journal. It appears to me that this allows authors of any paper in the journal to make their paper available under terms that satify the Wikidata goals, even to the point of making the version available under a CC0 license.\ > I don't see any benefit in using Wikimedia properties to advertise > for-profit endeavours which are clearly incompatible with the > Wikimedia > mission and values, as well as Wikidata's very reason of existence. > The > anti-OA venues usually have enough marketing power to get known > without > our help. My point here is not to defend the publisher of the journal but to argue that the journal might not be "bad". peter _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list -- wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikidata-le...@lists.wikimedia.org
