Dear Vito,

I thought about that concern already. While I cannot provide you with a 
conclusive answer, many requests I did were below the 60 second timeout 
limit and are similar to the SPARQL examples users are encouraged to try 
out.

If this becomes a real thing, I would, however, prefer to host a SPARQL 
endpoint soley for this purpose (and with a better timeout) myself.

Best,
Darius


--- Original-Nachricht ---
Von: Vi to
Betreff: [Wikidata] Re: Private Information Retrieval
Datum: 29. Januar 2022, 14:24
An: Discussion list for the Wikidata project


Aren't similar methods too much resource intensive from Wikidata's 
perspective?

Vito

Il giorno sab 29 gen 2022 alle ore 13:44 Darius Runge <
darius-ru...@magenta.de <mailto:darius-ru...@magenta.de> > ha scritto:
  Dear all,

  I started using WikiData for Private Information Retrieval. This allows
  answering certain questions while maintaining a high degree of secrecy.
  Suppose you wanted to know when Einstein was born, but for some reason
  you must keep the fact that you want to know this a secret. In this case,
  we assume a threat model with perfect knowledge about the computer in
  use, not just that someone managed to log the Wikidata requests.

  One solution would be to request a table of every human who ever won the
  Nobel Prize (this requires the common knowledge of Einstein being a
  winner of said) with the kind of Nobel Prize, date awarded, date of
  birth, date of death unless living, nationality etc. If we let this table
  scroll across the screen and read the required entry, there would be - as
  far as I can tell - no way to learn which entry (and how many of them) is
  of our interest.

  I have written a simple PHP script that allows one to enter a SPARQL
  request and have it displayed as a scrolling table. Please be advised
  that this is in a very informal alpha state, and I am no professional Web
  Developer. It's a mere proof-of-concept, but feel free to try it out if
  the API quota lets you.

  <https://darius-runge.eu/otp/request.php>


  My question is, whether anyone of you might be interested in working with
  me on discussing practical implications of this method (how should
  requests be written to allow for the desired privacy?) or even making a
  better implementation of a tool that allows viewing the scrolling table
  of printing it out.

  Feel free to reply to this mailing list entry or contact me privately
  with the postal or telecommunication data provided in the footer in case
  you don't want to discuss it in public.

  Best,
  Darius

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