Gregory Maxwell wrote: > The list is free to consult the wikisource list archives for my last > posts and your responses. Providing a direct link is a bit too much > work this far from my computers. > > I have the full set of out of copyright ptrsol papers is djvu, ocred, > and ready for whomever would accept them. Have for years. But it > seems people are too busy bickering than to bother to take them. > > I come back to this list after being absent while on the road for the > last week to find myself being, effectively, a liar and and > obstructionist because I expected people to be able to perform a one > second search to find one of hundreds of thousands of > PD-claimed-copyright documents in jstor; or because I think it would > be prudent to work with universitiy libraries first before asking the > wmf to spend hundreds of thousands of donor money. > If it's too much for you as the person making this claim to provide a direct link, then it's clearly also too much for me to waste time going through archives from years ago looking for phantom material which I don't believe to exist.
It's nice that you have all this material already in djvu format, but are the people who are currently trying to convert the same material from pdf to djvu aware of this? Wouldn't it be more constructive at this stage to simply add a comment to the current Scriptorium thread, letting the people who are now working on this material that this is available? Griping on this Wiki-en mailing list about some mistaken belief that you were not allowed to upload it years ago doesn't do much to advance anything. You are being entirely too thin-skinned when you elevate a claim that you have a faulty recall of old events into an accusation of lying. I have no idea at all about what occasioned your comment about obstructionism. Working with university libraries is just fine for those of us who are associated with a university, but please don't imagine that the rest of us have the same academic sinecure as you. What's more, a simple discussion about exploring the possibilities and price of working with JSTOR and others is still far removed from a proposal to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars. Ec > On 12/26/08, Ray Saintonge wrote: > >> Gregory Maxwell wrote: >> >>> I pulled all the rsol archives some years ago but when I tried to >>> submit the pd works to wikisource *you* blew me off Ray. I still >>> have them if anyone feels like fighting it out with the wikisource >>> community. >>> >> WTF? =-O >> >> We seem to be labouring under some misapprehension. This doesn't at all >> sound like the kind of thing I would do. >> >> For the latest round of discussion see [[Wikisource:Scriptorium#Royal >> Society Digital Archive only for 3 months FREE]] >> >> Ec >> >>> On 12/24/08, Ray Saintonge wrote: >>> >>>> Gregory Maxwell wrote: >>>> >>>>> So what happens when our editors start using their access to copy >>>>> public domain works hijacked by JSTOR into Wikisource when the >>>>> contract Wikimedia has with JSTOR forbids that activity? Will >>>>> Wikimedia tell its contributors that they can't copy these >>>>> indisputably public domain works into Wikisource? >>>>> >>>> It may tell them to, but it can't enforce that. Some Wikisourcerors are >>>> already downloading something similar from the Royal Society Digital >>>> Archives, which recently allowed a 3-month free access. >>>> >>>> We can easily argue that we own a paper copy of the work More >>>> interesting though would be some sort of argument that those sections of >>>> a contract which hijack copyrights on PD works are invalid as contrary >>>> to public policy. Alternatively, to what extent does a contract between >>>> WMF and another corporation such as JSTOR bind volunteer contributors. >>>> >>>> Ec _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
