wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
>  
> In a message dated 4/28/2009 12:30:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time,  
> sainto...@telus.net writes:
> 
> Requiring the author 
> to explain why a property is notable makes it  easier to have shifting 
> goalposts for notability to satisfy the AfD  denizens.>>
> 
> 
> 
> -------------
>  
> We have always placed the burden of proof-of-notability on the contributing 
>  author, not on the rest of the AfD posters.  That's been true across each  
> AfD for notability that I've seen.  I doubt it's going to change.  I  did 
> not create that, it's just the way it is.
>  
> Will Johnson

I disagree. To delete requires a consensus to delete. That is, a 
consensus of people believe the article has no place on wikipedia.

There are still some of us who remember that [[WP:N]] and other 
notability guidelines are only guidelines for a reason, they indicate 
how debates have tended to go in the past, they don't determine them, or 
legislate them.

For myself, I look at the merits of the article, and use common sense. 
Actually, I NEVER read notability guidelines.

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