On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Marc Riddell<michaeldavi...@comcast.net> wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Marc Riddell<michaeldavi...@comcast.net> >> wrote: >>> >>>> 2009/8/12 Marc Riddell <michaeldavi...@comcast.net>: >>>> >>>>> Try evasive. >>>> >>> on 8/12/09 5:02 AM, David Gerard at dger...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> It's good to see you assuming good faith and setting an example. >>>> >>> "Assume good faith" in this Project has come to mean "Don't ask questions". >>> That era is finally over. > > on 8/12/09 8:58 AM, Carcharoth at carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: >> >> That era never existed. There have always been people prepared to ask >> difficult questions and demand answers. It is actually possibly to ask >> such questions while still assuming good faith. It is also possible to >> avoid asking such questions and still assume bad faith by your >> actions. In other words, your interpretation of "assume good faith" or >> what it has meant in the past, is overly simplistic. >> >> A fuller description of the realities of AGF is here: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith >> > Think about it, Carcharoth, you are referencing the very thing I am > challenging.
It was a link to ensure that people here had actually read the current page. Why do you think I was referencing it? > More to the point of this thread, what do you think about the condition of > the Project's culture as far as how people are being treated is concerned? It varies depending on where in the project you are active and who you are interacting with. I don't think you can generalise completely here. I've always thought there has been a strong undercurrent of BITE-y behaviour at controversial pages, a general lack of leadership and improvement in some controversial areas, a lack of learning lessons from the successes, some elements of OWN-ership in out-of-the-way places, and too much overt politics and personal grudges being played out in something akin to a soap opera at times. But I also think people miss the productive areas and focus on the high-profile areas where things are less ideal. A kind of selection bias - remembering the bad stuff and forgetting the good stuff. In many cases, I think too many people try and get involved, and things deteriorate from there. Carcharoth _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l