I don't disagree at al', but the arbitration committee have tended to take the view that incivility alone is not a reason to remove the admin toolbox and flag. Our selection process for crats actually seems to work very well, because they seem to handle themselves well, and when there is a problem, they tend to fall on their swords, which in one sense is a good thing. I don't have much experience with Stewards, though. But yes, I've always followed Spider-Man, and thought that with great power comes great responsibility.
Emily Monroe wrote: > Hmm. What about somebody who has privileges? > > Clearly somebody who has non-admin rollback (like myself) may or may > not have it removed. It would depend if the person being incivil is > using the rollback to be incivil. Non-admin rollback is a position of > trust, but not a lot of trust. > > An admin, steward, or bureaucrat, on the other hand, may have their > privileges taken away. If you are in such a position, you're in a > position of not just trust, but *trust*. Incivility takes away that > trust. > > People may disagree with me, though. I get that. > > Emily > On Aug 12, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Surreptitiousness wrote: > > >> Emily Monroe wrote: >> >>>> It's a basic reality of life as an adult that employees with perfect >>>> work product but terrible attitudes are often terminated; their own >>>> work is fine, but their presence disrupts the work of others. >>>> >>>> >>> I agree. I sincerely believe that civility blocks are necessary. Not >>> as a punishment, or a chance to "cool down", but as a way to say >>> "Your >>> attitude is disrupting Wikipedia, and preventing it from improving. >>> Come back in [12/24 hours/a week/a month/whatever] and we'll give you >>> another chance, and not many more." >>> >>> Emily >>> >>> >> I agree emphatically. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> > > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > > _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l