Personally I don't think any editor, other than simple vandals should 
be able to be blocked "indefinitely" by admin action alone.  Too much 
room for abuse based on content issues.



-----Original Message-----
From: Emily Monroe <bluecalioc...@me.com>
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2009 5:43 pm
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Civility poll results










> Any such block for more than 24 hours is likely punitive.

True. Maybe we can do something along the lines of "Four 12-24 hour
civility blocks, and you'll be blocked indefinitely." or live
indefinite blocks up to the community. I'd prefer the latter.

> Saying "we'll give you another chance, and not many more," is a
> power move where you are using your superior privileges, shrouded in
> a royal "we", to intimidate the other person into complying with
> what you believe to be the rules.

Okay. What if the person has an attitude that is interfering with
writing articles? What if several people do? "We" agree that there's a
point that incivility shouldn't be tolerated.

Emily
On Aug 13, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote:

> Emily Monroe wrote:
>>> It's a basic reality of life as an adult that employees with perfect
>>> work product but terrible attitudes are often terminated; their own
>>> work is fine, but their presence disrupts the work of others.
>>>
>> I agree. I sincerely believe that civility blocks are necessary. Not
>> as a punishment, or a chance to "cool down", but as a way to say
>> "Your
>> attitude is disrupting Wikipedia, and preventing it from improving.
>> Come back in [12/24 hours/a week/a month/whatever] and we'll give you
>> another chance, and not many more."
> Any such block for more than 24 hours is likely punitive. Saying
> "we'll
> give you another chance, and not many more," is a power move where you
> are using your superior privileges, shrouded in a royal "we", to
> intimidate the other person into complying with what you believe to be
> the rules. You have already found him guilty.
>
> Ec
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