On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dal...@gmail.com>wrote:

> 2009/8/31 Brian <brian.min...@colorado.edu>:
> > I would also point out that competition can be a very healthy thing and
> it
> > could very well be a motivating tool. Assuming an algorithm that is
> > difficult to game editors might well be very interested in improving
> their
> > reputation scores. It could even give some credibility to the
> encyclopedia.
>
> Yes, competition is a good motivator, but that is only useful if it is
> motivating people to do something desirable. We don't actually want
> people to try and avoid being reverted - WP:BOLD is still widely
> accepted as a good guideline, isn't it?
>

>From the perspective of building an excellent encyclopedia you might want
people to be bold. This is an inherently inclusionist perspective where we
assume that bold editors who write awful, inaccurate or mediocre stuff are
still making valuable contributions. They are either contributing cruft
which is easy to get rid of, or they are contributing seeds for some future
editor to improve, or seeds for conversations on the talk page that will in
time result in high quality content. Or if we're lucky, they are not only
bold but really smart and only capable of producing brilliant prose. In
short, in the limit of time any contribution is a good contribution. Even
the worst contribution you can think of (which is probably engineered to
stick but blatantly false) is going to eventually be tagged as vandalism and
will help contribute to future intelligent algorithms that automatically
weed out vandalism.

>From the perspective of an editor whose reputation is at stake, they are
going to want to think more carefully about their contribution. On average
they want all of their edits to remain in the encyclopedia for a long time.
They might not want to be bold and thoughtless because that means they are
simply planting a seed for another editor to improve on, making it easier
for that other editor to improve their reputation at the stake of your
reputation. You might want to start your seed of an edit as a draft and
improve it over time, only finally submitting it to the encyclopedia after
it is already high quality and likely to stick.

I tend to think that the latter version is healthier than encouraging
everyone to contribute every thought that they have. Similar to the
[[Foot-in-the-door technique]], first we convinced you to edit this page,
now we'd like to ask you to spend some time thinking about your edit before
you submit it. If you do, your reputation will improve and your peers will
respect your edits more in the future.
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