> Editors/admins who are regularly rude to others are not only > tolerated by most of the community, they often have a group of > supporters around them always ready to praise everything they do, > manipulating RfCs and other voting (sorry, !voting) situations.
Do you think that civility blocks and bans pre-arbcom will help the situation at all? > If we want to make WP more friendly, we have to make sure admins and > high-profile editors are actually trying to BE friendly. If they > can't handle that, they shouldn't be working in a collaborative > environment. Exactly the reason why I support civility blocks. Emily On Sep 18, 2009, at 5:44 PM, Matt Jacobs wrote: > Having been bitten multiple times, I can definitely say the unfriendly > atmosphere has been a problem for a while now. Editors/admins who are > regularly rude to others are not only tolerated by most of the > community, > they often have a group of supporters around them always ready to > praise > everything they do, manipulating RfCs and other voting (sorry, ! > voting) > situations. A newbie running afoul of these people rarely even gets > token > sympathy if they try to get the problem addressed. The handful of > editors > who try to address these situations have to wade through multiple > attacks > and allegations just to try and do the right thing. > > If we want to make WP more friendly, we have to make sure admins and > high-profile editors are actually trying to BE friendly. If they > can't > handle that, they shouldn't be working in a collaborative environment. > > In addition, I believe that templates are 1) often not worded in a > friendly > manner, and 2) overused. Using a template when there isn't a very > good > reason to is going to often be perceived as rude, especially if an > article > they've worked hard on has just been speedy deleted. > > If WP is going to continue to gain editors, it has to do better. > Sxeptomaniac > > > > >> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:36:24 -0400 >> From: Sage Ross >> Subject: [WikiEN-l] Newbie and not-so-newbie biting >> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >> >> This isn't a new issue by any means, but here's a nice post by >> someone >> who's been contributing occasionally since 2004, about how daunting >> "wikibullying" can be for newbies and other editors who aren't >> well-versed in the procedures and processes. >> >> >> http://travel-industry.uptake.com/blog/2009/09/04/bullypedia-a-wikipedian-whos-tired-of-getting-beat-up/ >> >> Unfriendliness is built into the system, even when admins and others >> who enforce the rules are perfectly civil and try to be friendly at >> an >> individual level. >> >> -Sage >> >> > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l