On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Durova <nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com> wrote: > That question has already been answered several times, in several ways. I > am at a loss for how to restate it, and the insinuation posed alongside the > question discourages further attempt.
Ok, I've read through all your posts on this thread again, and here's are the points I see you making: 1) You do restorations of images and they take a lot of time and effort. 2) People have advised you to claim copyright/left over those restorations, but you resist doing so because it may harm the copyleft movement in general. 3) People are selling some of your images on eBay without crediting you, which you feel breaches your "moral rights". 4) Physical restoration and digital restoration are very different, and it is difficult to define exactly how much effort should be put into a digital restoration for it to count as a creative work in its own right. 5) Some discussion about how best to carry out certain restorations, which isn't relevant here. I have made the following point: 1) The two images in question that I looked at were both clearly marked "public domain", with the clear assertion that anyone could reuse these images for any purpose whatsoever. Further, the images neither clearly asserted you as the creator, nor requested (let alone, demanded) that people attribute you (or anyone) as an author. I'm sorry if I'm being obtuse or dense here, but I don't see how you've addressed my question, which is, in its simplest form: why do you think the eBay vendor in question is at fault? They took an image clearly marked "public domain", with no authorship information or request for attribution, printed it and sold it, well within their rights. To state my position even more clearly: 1) I'm on your side. I think you're doing a great job restoring valuable images for Wikipedia and the wider community. 2) It seems ethical to me that a person should acknowledge the hard work someone has put into producing the work that they are now profiting from, but I have no idea of the legalities. 3) I think your position would be a lot stronger if the image pages in question identified you more clearly or asserted your request for acknowledgement. Is the issue that you want acknowledgement but don't want to assert authorship? How do you expect end reusers of your content to figure it out? I hope this isn't a flamewar, I really want to figure out where you're coming from so perhaps we can offer some useful advice or help in some way. Steve _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l