On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Nathan <nawr...@gmail.com> wrote: > The FBI Seal / Badge issue is a pretty good example of why we actually > need Mike's opinion to limit the risk posed by the overly cautious or the > overly incautious.
Possibly. In this case it might be simpler. The first question to ask when assessing any image is whether it is genuine. In this case, I really would like to see an *official* FBI site that confirms this is what an FBI badge looks like. I'm not sure if any official sites do actually have such images, so that might be a problem considering the numbers of replicas around. http://www.ehow.com/about_5614599_fbi-badge-look-like_.html Maybe "badgepolicecom" on youtube is a reliable source? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlK08uYlg48 http://badge-police.com/ They are "official and licensed reseller partner of bellingham&carrington police badges" apparently, so their images would be genuine. But I doubt they would release their images under a free license. You would have to find someone who could confirm that they had access to an official badge (or historical badge) and were willing to release their photograph under a free license (the badge itself is PD, but as a 3D object photographs of it are not PD so the photographer still needs to release his work under a free license). Oh wait, I found a page here: http://www.fbi.gov/priorities/priorities.htm That would be a better source for images, but the images don't seem to be there. I tried searching the FBI site for "badge", and found stuff about people being arrested and tried for selling badges: http://sandiego.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel10/sd021710.htm http://newyork.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel08/credentialfraud070108.htm http://houston.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel10/ho020510.htm There should be an official page somewhere with an image for people wanting to know what an FBI badge looks like so they can identify people using fraudulent badges, but I can't find such a page. Please note this is about images of the *badges* not images of the *seal* (equivalent to a logo). The 3D versus 2D stuff makes a difference here (in the US at least), so you need explicit permission from the *photographer* to use the image. Carcharoth _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l