On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:50 PM, David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 29 August 2010 18:44, Carcharoth <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:29 PM, David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> I ask again: if the case came to you that one side was saying "we must
>>> do this to the article because someone with a financial interest asked
>>> us to" and the other was saying "we are an encyclopedia and this is an
>>> NPOV issue", what would your thinking be on the matter?
>
>> Sure, there may be a financial interest, but there can be an
>> altruistic motivation as well. I agree we are an encyclopedia and need
>> to include the ending, but I'm not convinced that spoiler *notices*
>> are a NPOV issue because NPOV applies to the article text, not to
>> disclaimers. For both the Stig issue and this one, there is (or will
>> be, depending on a court case) coverage of this in reliable sources,
>> so presumably the articles now mention this in some fashion, and that
>> will serve as a de facto spoiler warning within the text of the
>> article (as long as it appears before the ending or identity is
>> revealed). In both cases, there has been independent commentary and
>> coverage of the "secrecy" aspect of this, so saying within the article
>> that XYZ have objected to the ending/identity being reveled, is a
>> requirement of NPOV.
>
>
> You've mischaracterised the present issue: they want the ending kept
> secret, not in the article at all.
>
> Also, my question did not posit press coverage, so please do answer
> the actual question, as to what you would do if the issue were an OTRS
> request to leave information out of the encyclopedia, versus NPOV. As
> an arbitrator, your thinking on this matter is actually a relevant
> consideration.

That could get confusing in a thread titled "Wikipedia committee
member". Since this is not actually an arbitration matter, I am going
to leave this until it actually becomes the subject of an arbitration
case (if ever). Until that point, such issues need to be resolved by
community discussion. And I'd like to add that I don't appreciate
being repeatedly asked to speak "as an arbitrator" on a mailing list
where I participate more as an editor than anything else. Hopefully
others will be able to answer your question for you.

Carcharoth

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