On 16 November 2012 14:38, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:28 PM, David Goodman <dgge...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> There is a fundamental difference between our inefficient and >> sometimes unsuccessful attempts to do things right, and their >> deliberate attempts to do things wrong.
> Yes, but we must not forget that PR people are not the only people who use > Wikipedia to do things wrong. By operating the completely open system we > do, we enable *anyone* to do wrong, be they PR or staff working for a > company, or a company's detractors. > > The community is responsible for managing Wikipedia. And whether Wikipedia > is easy or difficult to abuse is the community's responsibility. I suppose this line of argument might be of some interest to someone looking for a dissertation topic in moral philosophy (as has been noted, it is off-topic). What happens to the notion of "agency" online? Still, I can't accept that it makes sense of some putative connection inherent in wiki technology, collective responsibility, and mere participation as an editor. Talking about the "community" as a way of avoiding talking about the intentions of the actors here is a neat trick. I think the meaning of "wrong" is being slurred here. I certainly don't think one should talk about enabling when editing is always a conditional permission rather than any kind of right, and the permission is given for a definite reason. And so on. The usual approach would surely be to look first at who is hosting the site when you seek to assign responsibility. Charles _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l