On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Matthew Brown <mor...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't think you need a *notable* source for all information, though, just > a reliable one. If the project officially shut down, a notice from the > project itself should suffice, right? > > I suspect in most of these cases, though, the project never officially > died, just petered out. If the project's software gives such a thing, you > can cite the information its edit history shows: "As of <date>, the last > contribution to the project was back in <long-ago date>." or "from a high > of <edit rate> in <long ago>, the rate of contributions has slowed to > <rate> as of <now>." > > If the site is gone, can you cite e.g. the Internet Archive's last cached > date as an approximate for when it vanished? Or DNS registration records, > if the name expired? > > -Matt > > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Fred Bauder <fredb...@fairpoint.net> wrote: > >> It's a problem. Information about the current status of these projects >> may have fallen off so much that little or nothing can be obtained from a >> notable source. So you are left with the splash and little else. No >> obituary available. >> >> Fred >> >> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Citizendium#So_what_and_how_do_we_write_about_this_sort_of_thing.3F >> > >> > How to write about things like [[Citizendium]], [[Conservapedia]], >> > [[Veropedia]] - things that were notable at the time and got lots of >> > press coverage and hence articles, and which readers may well want to >> > read about into the future - but which have fallen out of notice and >> > so their decline (and, in the case of Veropedia, death) got no >> > coverage and hence we can't answer the reader question "so, whatever >> > did happen to X?" >> > >> > (Anyone who wants to reply saying "Citizendium is alive and well and >> > will rise again!" or similar needs to check the most recent >> > WP:RS-suitable coverage from 2011: >> > >> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/10/five-year-old-wikipedia-fork-is-dead-in-the-water/ >> > and particularly the comments, where people have never heard of this >> > thing and in two weeks no-one even defends the project.) >> > >> > >> > - d. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > WikiEN-l mailing list >> > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Statistics special page on citizendium states they have 31 active editors. (have made an edit in the last month) -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
