Yes I can see that it would seem counter-productive to work on an overhaul of the current system in the middle of a competition. My experience in the Wikiverse has taught me two important lessons however: 1) Never assume that I can influence the workload of any other Wiki(p/m)edian 2) Never assume that I know what other Wiki(p/m)edians are able and willing to do
That said, I am always interested when I notice things happening in the Wikiverse that seem relevant to whatever it is that I am doing, wherever I am doing it. I am thinking about WLM now because we are gearing up to it, so it follows that I think about how to improve it, both for me personally as a participant, and for me personally as a Wikidatan. On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Platonides <platoni...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:25 AM, Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> In this discussion I see multiple things being suggested, or maybe only >> thought of. >> * Moving the monument database to Wikidata: for the 2015 edition it will >> not be possible because of the amount of workload. If it is possible for >> the 2016 edition I do not know, but keep in mind that there is more needed >> then only moving some data from location A to location B. There is a >> complete infrastructure behind it that needs to work. Let's not think too >> light hearted about this, the infrastructure is vital and crucial. >> > > +10 > Don't start thinking about migrations, this is not something that should > be started before November. > > > >> * Lists of monuments maintained in one place: sorry to say, but to get >> this completely maintained only in Wikidata is a fairytale. Not because it >> is not possible, but because there are people involved and there are >> requirements set for articles/lists by communities. From the Wikidata >> perspective it sounds perhaps ideal to maintain it in one place, but then >> the (whole) Wikipedia perspective is missing. Then you can say that you >> edit Wikipedia a lot, but then you missed the point. There is a big clash >> between some users who have the Wikidata perspective who think a lot of >> codes in Wikipedia articles is okay, and users from the Wikipedia >> perspective who think all those codes in articles are not okay. Wikipedia >> is strongly built from the perspective that anyone can edit articles, and >> this is something that made Wikipedia big and is often considered an >> important characteristic of Wikipedia. Of course you can say that users can >> edit Wikidata when there are codes in Wikipedia, but that is thought too >> simple for multiple reasons. (...) >> > > An important point to be taken into account is that Wikidata is *hard* to > edit. I can point to a wiki-based list, and no matter the template and > curly braces perhaps looking ugly, it can be quickly grasped. I'm not sure > we could ensure the same storing things in wikidata. And WLM in many > countries is run by organisers that are not exactly wiki experts, much less > wikidata ones... > > > PS: Jean, send a mail if you need help with erfgoedbot. > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >
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