Hi,

I don't  have an opinion on what it should be, but if I remember
correctly the Monumental's method was to include all items with P625 and
P1435 values. P1435 however doesn't work least in Sweden.

Br,
-- Kimmo Virtanen

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 12:37 PM Jernej Polajnar <jpolajnar.w...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> "Wiki Loves Monuments ID" is self-referential, I don't think it would be a
> good replacement for IDs in national monument databases - for example,
> those can be linked to external database entries, while P2186 can't be. If
> anything, P2186 could be used an additional ID, with own set of values or
> mirroring the national IDs. Although, own set of values would probably be a
> better idea to avoid conflicts between countries.
>
> Jernej
>
>
>
> On 29. 04. 2021 11:27, Josephine Lim wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Hope you are all safe and well. After having finalized our plans for WLM
> integration into the Commons app based on community feedback (
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Mobile_app/WLM , which was
> posted to this mailing list a couple of months ago), we have started work
> on implementation.
>
> We have run into a bit of an issue, however, that we are hoping to get
> help with. The initial plan (based on the discussion at
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2020-July/009263.html
> and at the abovementioned wiki page) was to use Wikidata as our data
> source, displaying all Wikidata items with the identifier property of P2186
> (Wiki Loves Monuments ID) on our map.
>
> However we have now found out that some countries don't use P2186 at all.
> Someone kindly linked
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_WLM/Status#Table to
> me, and based on that it seems that there is a rather large variety of
> identifiers that different countries use.
>
> Realistically speaking, it would be really difficult for us to account for
> every possible identifier that every country uses, and it would also make
> stability and maintenance much more tricky. We can try, but it would be
> risky and tedious.
>
> On the other hand, it was suggested to me that if there is WLM community
> consensus that P2186 should be used as a universal identifier, countries
> might be willing to adopt P2186 for the sake of harmonization.
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Josephine / User:misaochan, Commons app project lead
>
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