Hi Gregory,

Could I ask a related common question - why not just send these out on 
WikimediaAnnounce-l?

Thanks,
Mike

On 30 Jun 2012, at 06:49, Gregory Varnum wrote:

> Cross-posting.
> 
> -greg
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Gregory Varnum <gregory.var...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: New, lower traffic, announcements only email list for Wikimedia 
>> developers
>> Date: 30 June, 2012 1:23:11 AM EDT
>> To: wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> Following discussions with Wikimedia developers more on the "fringe" and not 
>> as engaged in frequent IRC or mailing list conversations, the request for an 
>> announcements only mailing list came up.  I wanted to let folks know that 
>> this list has been created and is ready for membership:  
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-announce  -  
>> wikitech-annou...@lists.wikimedia.org  There will also be a signup list for 
>> this and other lists at Wikimania Hackathon.
>> 
>> Unlike this list, which allows for discussion, or the MediaWiki-announce 
>> list, which focuses exclusively on MediaWiki release announcements, 
>> wikitech-announce will be used for occasional announcements on both 
>> MediaWiki and broader Wikimedia developer related news items.  This includes 
>> an announcement when monthly tech or engineering reports are posted, 
>> important news updates on git or developer related tools, and information on 
>> upcoming sprints, events or other major developer collaborations.
>> 
>> Having presented this idea a few times, there are some common questions I 
>> will get out of the way now.
>> 
>> Why not just send these out on MediaWiki-announce?  There was quick reaction 
>> from several of these less-engaged developers that some really did want JUST 
>> MediaWiki release info sent out on that list.  In other words, the audience 
>> of that list did not like the idea.
>> 
>> Will this duplicate emails sent to wikitech-l?  Probably, but it is not 
>> designed for folks already utilizing wikitech-l - it is designed for folks 
>> who would like less email traffic and want announcements - not conversations.
>> 
>> Is this really going to save folks that many emails?  In June, the 
>> wikitech-l list had 639 individual messages (so far).  It is unlikely that 
>> this list would exceed 12 a month.  For reference, MediaWiki-announce has 
>> sent out 3 messages this month and mediawiki-l had 121 messages.  This list 
>> presents a middle ground between the two extremes.
>> 
>> Do we not already have enough lists?  Yes, but as our developer community 
>> grows, so too must our means of communicating.  Many individuals, myself 
>> included, have been intentionally trying to engage developers generally less 
>> present, but just as important to our community.  Such as corporate 
>> developers with an interest in sharing extensions who can benefit from 
>> announcements about git.  Similarly, some students would prefer to get basic 
>> info that helps them stay on top of the latest developments.
>> 
>> Generally, if you find yourself having a concern about this list, it is 
>> probably not the list for you to join.  However, if you find yourself 
>> excited at the idea of less development chatter while remaining informed, 
>> this might just be the list for you.
>> 
>> Thank you to Sumana and TheHelpfulOne for supporting this effort and to 
>> Daniel Renfro for proposing this idea and getting the discussion started.
>> 
>> I have volunteered to moderate the list at its start, but will be interested 
>> in recruiting others that are willing to help.  Anyone with an announcement 
>> can submit one, and a moderator will approve messages which fit within the 
>> list's scope.
>> 
>> Finally, like any new tool, I anticipate its usage will evolve over time - 
>> so please do engage in discussion on any ideas you may have for its future.
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> -greg aka varnent
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