Le 2013-04-18 05:00, James Alexander a écrit :
I tend to think that they can be incredibly useful and reader
friendly. I've always found it a bit disappointing we don't have it as
they are probably the bigger reader request I've ever seen.

Please provide metrics and numbers. You know how our personal impressions are biased with our personal interets. And you also know how metrics, while not providing "absolute truth", assuage our biases.

That said
I know that enWiki has had multiple discussions about it ending in
failure. The issues mostly seem to stem from the "we're not MySpace"
crowd which I think misses the point that we both "are" a social
network and that we're an educational site (and should encourage
sharing that information) but <sigh>.

Then you may promote "wikisocial" if you like. I'm not sure it would be manageable to come with a solution responding to both "social network features" and "privacy concerns".

However! That doesn't stop other projects from doing it and I would
love to see those that do. Wikinews has ha their social bookmarks
template for a while now and we adapted it for the fundraiser a while
ago on WMF wiki as well as a very nice version for the anti SOPA
protests.. I don't have the links handy but can get them at home and I
think the best thing to do would be to search through the history
because they've gone through a couple variations. There is a bug on
bugzilla as well to add the meta information required for a more
useful Facebook share (and I think G+) which also is unlikely to be
that big of a problem.

Not talking about the privacy dilema, Wikipedia must remain neutral which mean whether providing more **internal** social network features (the coming Echo extension may provide some of them) or providing nothing. But in my humble opinion, including some third party dependances is a not an option if we want to stay neutral. Argumentum ad populum[1] is not receivable.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

The only thing to keep in mind is that we occasionally need
creativity. The "default" way that most sites tell you to share is
often problematic for our privacy policy because it either has a
script call to the home sight on page load or requires an iframe
(Facebook likes I'm looking at you). That said they all have options
that can work for us they are just a bit more hidden.

There's no such thing as "the only thing to keep in mind". We sure want more engaged editors, and "creativity" surely is welcome. But we have other constraints which are not less important, and we can't afford to forget it.


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