This is a really interesting idea - not just for VE but for other new-user tools as well.
CCing to Steven, who's been doing some work with the signup interface - is this sort of hook technically practical? Andrew. On 15 October 2013 13:11, Jan Ainali <jan.ain...@wikimedia.se> wrote: > From Charles original questions I guess that he would be satisified with > something like: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&enablevisualeditor=1 > > > which should enable the Visual Editor for users signing up through that > link. If it is possible or not to do that I have no idea. > > *Med vänliga hälsningar, > Jan Ainali* > > Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige <http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida> > 0729 - 67 29 48 > > > > > > > 2013/10/15 Craig Franklin <cfrank...@halonetwork.net> > >> Hear hear. >> >> I know this is a battle that the Foundation's engineers can't possibly win, >> given the circumstances which VE was moved from opt-out to opt-in on enwiki >> (see >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&diff=prev&oldid=574251354 >> , >> for those who aren't aware). Turn it on, turn it off; either way someone >> gets upset. >> >> From a pure technical standpoint, is it possible to put a checkbox on the >> new user page or something so that new users can turn it on without having >> to delve deep into the untamed wilderness that is the user preferences >> page? >> >> Cheers, >> Craig >> >> >> On 15 October 2013 21:54, Richard Nevell <richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk >> >wrote: >> >> > I firmly agree with that, taking a detour to preferences when training >> new >> > editors isn't my preferred method. >> > >> > Richard >> > >> > >> > On 15 October 2013 12:47, Ziko van Dijk <vand...@wmnederland.nl> wrote: >> > >> > > Hello, >> > > >> > > I think that for beginners things must be as simple and clear as >> > > possible. Make them manipulate the preferences at the beginning of the >> > > session is already complicated and a waste of time. Don't forget that >> > > beginners already have to learn so many things quickly, so the more >> > > you can reduce, the better. >> > > Actually I'd prefer to have a model wiki that looks like Wikipedia but >> > > is best suited to use in trainings. >> > > >> > > Kind regards >> > > Ziko >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > Dr. Ziko van Dijk >> > > voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland >> > > >> > > Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland >> > > Postbus 167 >> > > 3500 AD Utrecht >> > > http://wikimedia.nl >> > > >> > > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > >> > > >> > > 2013/10/15 Charles Andrès <charles.andres.w...@gmail.com>: >> > > > Thanks, but in FR.Wikipedia.org you only have the opt-out option >> > > (disable visual editor) :-( >> > > > >> > > > Charles >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ___________________________________________________________ >> > > > I use this email for mailing list only. >> > > > >> > > > Charles ANDRES, Chief Science Officer >> > > > "Wikimedia CH" – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – >> > > > www.wikimedia.ch >> > > > Skype: charles.andres.wmch >> > > > IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch >> > > > >> > > > Le 15 oct. 2013 à 10:10, Enock Seth Nyamador <kwadzo...@gmail.com> a >> > > écrit : >> > > > >> > > >> Hello Charles, >> > > >> >> > > >> I don't think there is a way to for this in the registration >> process. >> > > >> >> > > >> To enable or disable Visual Editor. Login >> > > >> >> > > >> 1. Go to ---> Preferences --> Click Editing tab. >> > > >> 2. At the bottom of Editing page, Check or uncheck the box beside >> > > Enable VisualEditor (only in the main and user namespaces) >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> OR >> > > >> >> > > >> Follow this link >> > > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing >> > > >> Then repeat step 2 above. >> > > >> >> > > >> Hope it helps. >> > > >> >> > > >> Thanks. >> > > >> >> > > >> Regards, >> > > >> Enock S. 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