I would dispute the suggestion the Finnish Wikipedia is specific to Finland; I read it regularly and have never been to Finland. There are at a bare minimum something like 300,000 fluent Finnish speakers who don't live in Finland (and I don't think that's counting the portion of Swedes who speak Finnish,) so although the fundraising banner probably primarily attracted donations from people in Finland, it likely attracted plenty of donations from other countries as well.
Best, Kevin Gorman On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Charles Gregory <wmau.li...@chuq.net> wrote: > In Australia, we (Wikimedia Australia) had to get fundraising approval > before the 2010 fundraiser (when the chapters accepted and processed the > payments and then passed a share back to the Wikimedia Foundation). This > was made more complicated due to the fundraising laws being a state issue > rather than national and so we had to seek approval from each state, some > with different requirements than others (for example, some needed a member > in that state willing to act as a contact person). > > When this arrangement ended and Wikimedia Foundation took on the > fundraising themselves, this was no longer a requirement due to the WMF not > being an Australian organisation. (Although we advised WMF to seek their > own legal advice to confirm this) > > Your situation appears to be different for several reasons: > 1) Your situation involves a group of users, not a chapter (the donation is > to a non-Finnish organisation) > 2) The donation information is in a language specific to your country - and > so by targetting Finnish speakers, they were targetting Finland residents - > whereas the same language is spoken in Australia and the United States. > > With #1 - given the number of smaller websites with a "Donate via Paypal" > button in the corner, I don't think this should be an issue. > > The only thing that would shift this in the Finnish police's favour is #2 - > suggesting that Finns were involved in the fundraising - and as others have > said, this could quite easily be a person (or people) who the Finnish > government has no jurisdiction over (a national of another country who has > learned Finnish, for example). Unless the Finnish Government has some sort > of strange ownership or legal connection to the Finnish language... > > (Dislcaimer: IANAL of course) > > (BTW - I was amused that even Google translate failed to translate Nemo's > link the first time around!) > > Regards, > > Charles Gregory > (User:Chuq) > > > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Leinonen Teemu <teemu.leino...@aalto.fi > >wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I just got a message that the Finnish Police have asked the fi.wikipedia, > > by sending an email to the wikifi-ad...@list.wikimedia.org, to give a > > written statement about their possible violation of the laws that > regulate > > fundraising in Finland. There is a little news about this already online > in > > English. Here: > > > > > > > http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2014/02/07/finnish_police_probe_wikipedia_donation_requests > > > > I chat about this with a lawyer friend and he was afraid that the police > > msy go after the volunteers that have participated in the fundraising, > e.g. > > by translating the fundraising messages. > > > > Is there any equivalent cases from other countries? > > > > In Finland one needs a pre-given permission to do fundraising. > > > > - Teemu > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > Teemu Leinonen > > http://teemuleinonen.fi > > +358 50 351 6796 > > Media Lab > > http://mlab.uiah.fi > > Aalto University > > School of Arts, Design and Architecture > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
