On 04/15/2014 05:12 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> Yeah, one of the first things to do is to talk to these partner
> organisations (because they are partner organisations) and ask what
> would actually be helpful, rather than helpy

One thing that Erik has not mentionned (probably because it simply
slipped his mind) is that this is exactly what we have done for Freenode
in the past six or seven months.  They were aching for a couple extra
nodes, and we are currently hosting one for them.

This was a one-off, and is not very onerous for us to provide (we
already have the hardware and infrastructure; the only ongoing cost is
bandwidth and a little bit of ops time).  I suppose it can be seen as a
contribution of the ops team itself -- we were pretty much unanimous
that if a way could be found to help them in a way that would not impact
production (it has), then contributing to a project we rely upon daily
was a "no brainer".

FWIW, I agree with the general principle as well, and I don't even see
it as a objective creep: the maintenance of the ecosystem of tools and
infrastructure which makes Wikipedia possible is a necessary part of our
mission.  It does little help to have all the data if there doesn't
exist an infrastructure of open source software to make running the
projects possible.

-- Marc


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