Its a very bold move on your part Will and it will be interesting how this develops over time. I dont participate at Wikipediocracy but I lurk regularly. Perhaps because I have some long-standing issues that no one addresses and its useful to know others have problems too.
> From: w...@wllm.com > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 16:06:32 -0700 > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Participating on Wikipediocracy > > > OK, can you explain why you participate on Wikipediocracy? > > Thanks, Edward! I was starting to worry that no one would ask. > > I participate on WO because I think every voice deserves to be heard. > And I will go wherever people feel comfortable speaking freely to hear > them. Some of us feel comfortable on this list; others are more > comfortable on a criticism-oriented site like WO. That social pattern > is not uncommon, and in these situations I usually feel comfortable in > both environments. > > The trash talk. . . Most of the concerns I've heard about WO involve > the snarky, personal comments that are front and center in the forums. > I know this makes it very difficult for many people to listen to > anything else they have to say. I've called them out on this a few > times, but I was reminded that everyone is there for different reasons > and the trash talk somehow works for a few of them. What can I say? > The great thing about free speech is that everyone is free to say > anything. The only thing I can think of that might be better is that > everyone is free to ignore anything. ;) > > Beyond the trash talk are some very real concerns from some very > insightful people. If you're concerned about whether I'm getting > accurate information, I don't take for granted anything said there > without a secondary source- just like anything said here. Some of the > concerns I've heard there seem to be taboo in the mainstream WP > community. It's very interesting that WO was brought up when I asked > about Child Protection Policies, for example. Harassment Policy is > another issue that seems to be unwelcome in some forums. But there are > also concerns that I've seen come up in this forum, too, like how to > improve the quality of articles. That's not too surprising, since I'm > not the only person who is active in both communities. There are more > concerns than I can go through here, but I started a relatively > trash-free thread there to get an understanding of their concerns: > http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=4531. Maybe it > would help others, too. If it would be welcome here, I'd pose the same > question to understand the greatest concerns in this community. > > Finally, I ask everyone to respect my own right to free speech. I am > not just Lila's partner; I am a person with my own opinions, my own > motives, my own interests, and my own needs. I have no professional > affiliation with WMF, and Lila and I have gotten pretty good at > keeping our professional lives to ourselves at home. For those of you > who work at the WMF and have voiced concern over my participation on > WO, you can rest assured that I have absolutely no influence over your > professional lives. For everyone in the WP community, I'd like you to > know that I form my personal opinions of people on my direct > interactions with them- not what someone says on a forum somewhere. > Please, feel free to interact with me. :) There were also some > concerns about my mentioning that I communicate with some of the > people at the WMF about WP stuff. I stopped mentioning any employees > of the WMF- including those in my immediate family- and I've come to > the conclusion that it isn't in anyone's best interests to discuss > anything related to WP in private with WMF employees. I'm kinda > learning as we go here, so I apologize for any brainfarts like that. > Ultimately, I'm asking you to treat me as you would any new WP > contributor, because, at the end of the day, that is all I am. > > I'm hoping to get to know all of the people in this forum better. It's > harder for me to follow along here because a lot of the stuff is very > specific and often discussed with little context. I'll catch up. In > the meantime, I'll continue asking questions, some of which may be > inconvenient. Like I said, I am not Lila; I'm that guy who asks stuff > while everyone else is hoping he just keeps his mouth shut. :P Please > respect my right to free speech; I'll be respecting your right to > ignore me. > > ,Wil > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
