Wil Sinclair wrote: >>I think there is a lot of value and promise in Flow. But it is a huge paradigm shift for onwiki communication, and it must not surprise users under any circumstances. Maybe someone has the right figure handy, but I wouldn't be surprised if, after archives are added up, there is more discussion across all wikis than content. If so, one might argue that this is a bigger change than VE and it certainly dwarfs the impact that most editors experience from the MV rollout.
====== It is an interesting question as to whether there is more "talk" than total content at WP. lt's an empirical question, maybe someone has the answer. Regardless, Flow is bigger than VE in impact for the active volunteer community because there will be no opt-outing out of it. If and when it is installed, it will be the one and only available option for everyone. If that software is broken in any significant way, I find it hard to put into words how "messy" an issue it will be for WMF. Think the VE debacle plus the MV dustup to the second power — with no easy solution, since all existing talk pages will be archived and going back nearly impossible without fully reverting every page which it touched. Flow must, must, must be proven to be not only 100% fully functional software but to represent an improvement over the status quo in actual practice on some wiki other than En-WP or De-WP before even a limited roll out is made in En-WP or De-WP. This software is a mere blip on the horizon for most En-WP volunteers at the moment. It will become the biggest of issues. If the software doesn't work perfectly, if the introduction is not done incrementally and with full community consent, things are going to go nuclear. That's not a threat or an idle prediction, that's a statement of a mathematically certain fact. Tim Davenport Carrite on WP /// Randy from Boise on WPO Corvallis, OR (USA) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
