Russavia wrote "To crop the logo out to appear as it does in your linked to image, it would be a copyvio. " Doesn't the free license we use is supposed to allow (and even force) any modifications of an image to be free also?
JP aka Amqui 2014-12-11 11:04 GMT-07:00 Russavia <russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com>: > Geni > > You wouldn't be talking about the Skyy Spirits case would you? > http://www.law.cornell.edu/copyright/cases/225_f3d_1068.htm > > This case is not akin to that case in any way, shape or form. That > issue was referring to the copyright on the 3D bottle. Refer to > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_rules_by_subject_matter#Product_packaging > > But in Steven's case, it is also complicated by Japanese law having to > be considered. > > Jane > > FoP may or may not cover it. > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama#Tunisia > states the work has to be permanently located in a public place. It > could also depend on the purpose of the photo. > > Nathan > > I'm sorry, but I can't believe you were seriously talking about a logo > on the tractor which isn't basically visible in the original photo you > showed. It's call "de minimis" in the photo on Commons. To crop the > logo out to appear as it does in your linked to image, it would be a > copyvio. There is another aspect of "de minimis" that needs to be > considered. You can't walk into a bookshop and take photos of a rack > of magazine covers (which would be copyrighted) and upload those to > Commons, as in that context of that photo each individual part can not > be separated from the overall motif of the photograph. > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:DM might be nice reading for > you. > > Steven > > There's seriously so many aspects that we have to consider on Commons, > and the entire VOLUNTEER community does it's best. It's not good to > attack the entire community as you did in your opening post, when the > editor who nominated the image for deletion did so in good faith, and > in fact the issue of COM:PACKAGING deletions was being discussed in > #wikimedia-commons for some hours. You make it sound that we love > deleting people's uploads just to piss them off, and I guarantee you > that is not the case. If you ever want to have a civilised discussion > on the issues, go on project and start that discussion. Just don't > approach the issue by calling us all extremists, because you'll simply > be ignored, not only by myself, but by others too I would imagine. > > I've got nothing more to say here I think. > > Russavia > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:25 AM, geni <geni...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 11 December 2014 at 16:54, Russavia <russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> Steven, > >> > >> No Stephen, this is toxic -- > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU > >> > >> My response was a hard truth unfortunately. As is my comments at > >> > >> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Green_tea_Kit-Kat.jpeg > >> about your long, whiny post. > >> > >> Thanks for reading > >> > >> Russavia > >> > >> > > > > Really? The relevant caselaw isn't as clear as you appear to suggest. In > > particular the judges in the Ninth Circuit ruling (WMF is based in > > California so Ninth Circuit) have explicit rejected the idea that labels > on > > useful articles (which packaging generally is) creative derivative when > > dealing with product photography. I am admittedly unaware of any case-law > > considering labels vs stuff directly printed onto packing but the general > > principles seem to hold. > > > > -- > > geni > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
